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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Exception View Post
    Not at all. The way Israel treats Palestinians simply breeds violent behavior.
    Do you justify the violent behavior? involving families being torn apart?

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    Israel is a problem country. They constantly do inhuman acts and for some reason we Americans are supporting them militarily through weapons. Even Trump wants to help Israel out. Israel is also surrounded by other countries that hate them, so what exactly did they expect to get instead of 100 attacks they would get 100 cakes or pies?

  3. #23
    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    Israel should just marsh in sack it and give them full citizen rights and get over with this shit.
    So, in other words you want Israel to annex the west bank and gaza?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dukenukemx View Post
    Israel is a problem country. They constantly do inhuman acts and for some reason we Americans are supporting them militarily through weapons. Even Trump wants to help Israel out. Israel is also surrounded by other countries that hate them, so what exactly did they expect to get instead of 100 attacks they would get 100 cakes or pies?
    Israel is a problem country, if you consider it as being in a state of ongoing conflict. Awarding Israel with the title "doing inhuman things" is betraying your own sense of justice, when you don't consider a conflict to have two sides. Both sides are doing inhuman things.

  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by Barendon View Post
    Do you justify the violent behavior? involving families being torn apart?
    I said that the way Israel handles the situation is what creates these things. Shouldn't be too hard to understand.

  5. #25
    Quote Originally Posted by Seja Victrix View Post
    So by your logic, if you shot someone's daughter, and he punched you in the face, you're the victim?
    Do you really wanna go all the way back to see who started it all? You probably shouldn't. (Nor does it matter)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exception View Post
    I said that the way Israel handles the situation is what creates these things. Shouldn't be too hard to understand.
    And what about how the Palestinians handling these things? It seems like terrorism is a good way to handle things, you're right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    Sometimes the stories are a bit too touchy-feely and, for some unknown reason, they employ a lot of imebciles in their sports department (e.g. Garth Crooks and Robbie Savage), but apart from that they're decent and fairly unbiased.
    I guess only your kind would see this headline as "unbiased":

    https://www.facebook.com/annaberg.en...type=3&theater

    At least they corrected it after getting many complains but their agenda (and yours) is pretty obvious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barendon View Post
    So, in other words you want Israel to annex the west bank and gaza?
    Yeah and in return give the people there full citizen rights I'm tired of this shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exception View Post
    Not at all. The way Israel treats Palestinians simply breeds violent behavior.
    There's more people in the world raised in worse circumstances that don't turn to violence.

    Turning to violence is a personal choice, that every individual makes for itself.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    Yeah and in return give the people there full citizen rights I'm tired of this shit.
    Won't happen. Simply because neither side wants that. Israel wants to keep israel as a jewish state, that's kind of the whole purpose of it. The Palestinians however want their own sense of freedom. According to Islam, muslims cannot be governed by a non muslim reign. Also, the heads of both sides (Hamas and Knesset) currently gain more than they would lose if they actually come into a solution.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Barendon View Post
    Do you really wanna go all the way back to see who started it all? You probably shouldn't. (Nor does it matter)

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    And what about how the Palestinians handling these things? It seems like terrorism is a good way to handle things, you're right.
    Nice strawman.
    If Israel wants to cut down on terrorism, it should start treating Palestinians as human beings. Bombing cities, illegal blockades, and an apartheid system are not a way to achieve peace. These only help extremists to recruit more people.
    Last edited by Exception; 2015-10-08 at 12:00 PM.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by Holas View Post
    So a brown guy takes knife and kills 2 civilians just because they are Jews, how would YOU call him?
    "Murderer" would be a good start into a reasonable discussion. Labelling everything as "terrorist" only serves to steer the narrative into a certain direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holas View Post
    I guess only your kind would see this headline as "unbiased":

    https://www.facebook.com/annaberg.en...type=3&theater

    At least they corrected it after getting many complains but their agenda (and yours) is pretty obvious.
    What are you complaining about? ISAF burned hundreds of children to death last year. You really want unbiased reporting?

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    Israel will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Exception View Post
    If Israel wants to cut down on terrorism, it should start treating Palestinians as human beings. Bombimg cities, illegal blockades, and an apartheid system are not a way to achieve peace.
    It's a never ending who came first question, the egg or the chicken. Hamas shoots rockets on israel, they backfire and bomb Gaza. There's a violent riot throwing rocks and molotovs on soldiers, children who throw such things die, and people initiate terrorism activities. That "Apartheid" you mention didn't exist before 2002, but the Second intifida provoked such closure on the west bank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Holas View Post
    So a brown guy takes knife and kills 2 civilians just because they are Jews, how would YOU call him?
    A murderer.


    Quote Originally Posted by Barendon View Post
    And what about how the Palestinians handling these things? It seems like terrorism is a good way to handle things, you're right.
    So what you're saying is, any crime committed by a Palestinian is terrorism?

    Israel has been waging a campaign of terror against Palestinian civilians for decades. What they do is actual terrorism.
    Last edited by Netherspark; 2015-10-08 at 12:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    "Murderer" would be a good start into a reasonable discussion. Labelling everything as "terrorist" only serves to steer the narrative into a certain direction.
    Terrorist would seem to be accurate since they are using terror for political ends. For reasons of fairness, ISAF pilots should be described in the same way.

    Personally I feel the whole problem could be solved by drowning the respective political elites of both countries in pigs blood, with maybe the pandering segments of US congress drowned in barrels of oil next to them.

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    must be another slow news week if they are turning to this drivel again.

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    You reap what you sow. Clearly more oppression and more hostile acts will not lead to retribution! Oh wait.

    Sorry for those innocents involved but this really is on their hands of the Israeli government very recently they destroyed illegal Palestine settlements while they allow Jews to however keep building their illegal settlements. They'll continue to act like they did not see this coming and had no hand in luring these responses out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barendon View Post
    Won't happen. Simply because neither side wants that. Israel wants to keep israel as a jewish state, that's kind of the whole purpose of it. The Palestinians however want their own sense of freedom. According to Islam, muslims cannot be governed by a non muslim reign. Also, the heads of both sides (Hamas and Knesset) currently gain more than they would lose if they actually come into a solution.
    I know just that it would be probably the best on an humanitarian level and most realistic solution lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    I know just that it would be probably the best on an humanitarian level and most realistic solution lol.
    In a sense , it's the most unrealistic solution, if you know both sides

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    You reap what you sow. Clearly more oppression and more hostile acts will not lead to retribution! Oh wait.

    Sorry for those innocents involved but this really is on their hands of the Israeli government very recently they destroyed illegal Palestine settlements while they allow Jews to however keep building their illegal settlements. They'll continue to act like they did not see this coming and had no hand in luring these responses out.
    You're not lying with your latest info, but you're not looking at the bigger picture. What the Israeli government does now, is what the israeli citizens voted for, and what they voted for came from the sense of security they wanted, following such attacks to begin with. It's a non ending cycle of violence, but when both sides react with emotions of anger and hate, it will not be solved.

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