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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerothane View Post
    Porn has existed sense the beginning of art though and has been very prevalent though out history. I'm not sure if this can be regarded in relationship to child sex trafficking and viewed as the part of he cause.

    A even bigger point to touch on would be soft core porn which is everywhere in our sexualized culture. I would encouraged anyone interested in this topic to watch "Are all men pedophiles" documentary it was on netflixs not sure if it still is. It brings up a lot of very interesting things such as the average of models on magazines being 16 and very sexualized.
    High Fashion models sure. Just to use Vogue as a popular example, their demographics are 90% women - 10% men, and I suspect if we dissected that 10% of men - overwhelmingly it's gay men. The number of straight men looking at fashion models as being sexualized is very low: it's women setting that unrealistic standard of beauty for themselves.

    For an understanding of what men actually find attractive, google the top pornstars by internet views sometime - Sasha Grey is the twiggiest one you'll find - and people aren't really into her for her body: they like her because she's a freak - she's an exception not the rule.
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    I watch porn, GF watches porn. Doesn't even come up really. We spoke about it once a few years ago, just ended up talking about what sites we use and what we watch.

    Don't think its disrespectful or a form of cheating. We're both fairly jealous people and we respect each other a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Do you think watching pornography whilst in a relationship is disrespectful or even a form of cheating?
    No. The girl I'm dating doesn't like it, but she knows I watch. I've never been dishonest about it. Not really cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Symphonic View Post
    If you're with someone who doesn't have a problem with you watching porn then you're with the wrong person. Leave them and find someone who only wants to share those intimate emotions with you. There's no shame in asking for total fidelity.

    (In all seriousness though, if you and your significant other are ok with it, whatever. But in my opinion it's wrong, especially if you're hiding it.)
    Not all humans have the same sex drive. I'm not going to force my GF into the position of raising her sex drive to my level when I can instead just fap when I want to and we can both keep the sex drives we're comfortable with.

    Some times you just need to fap. Porn is a tool to help you with that.

    6 years together and its suited us just fine. Fuck you and your "with the wrong person" bullshit. What a pretentious asshole you come across as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joathen View Post
    My significant otter* and I both watch porn- but she's also away at school for months at a time. When she's back home there's never really any need or interest for it cause we get plenty of the real deal with each other, once in a rare while we'll put a video on together and try a thing or two but it usually just ends in hilariously awkward positions and lots of elbows to the face.

    *Not an actual otter.
    That's similarly true for me my partner and I both go to college and have jobs so finding time and having enough energy might be rare. So for me I do use porn in this way to subsides this goal and also experience something I typically would never to want to enact in real life. Sometimes its just because I don't want to burden my partner or worry about their pleasure in the experience. Or I want to elevate stress and do so in a quick fashion independently. Also my partner rarely ever masturbates only doing so when I am unavailable, and never really views porn. However I have a higher sex drive and typically am more active than her.

    This touches on another point that a lot of relationships run into trouble on which is the appropriate amount of sex drive from both parties which sometimes can be very hard to accommodate in a relationship especially when dealing with self esteem and intimacy/communication issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Do you think watching pornography whilst in a relationship is disrespectful or even a form of cheating?
    - Disrespectful, if the partner doesn't know of it. Sincerity is a key factor of a working relationship.
    - Cheating? Cheating has a very narrow and unambiguous definition. So, it's not very constructive to unnecessarily widen it.

    Besides, I want to see the husbands and boyfriends, who hold out 2 or more pregnancies of the wife / girlfriend without some help to let off some steam.

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    My wife knows I watch it and does not care. There has been times when we watch it together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Do you think watching pornography whilst in a relationship is disrespectful or even a form of cheating?
    nope - if an adult thinks occasionally watching consenting adults other then themselves having sex is a bad thing, then they have personal issues to work out and are not ready for a healthy intimate relationship with another adult
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerothane View Post
    Porn has existed sense the beginning of art though and has been very prevalent through out history. I'm not sure if this can be regarded in relationship to child sex trafficking and viewed as the part of he cause.

    A even bigger point to touch on would be soft core porn which is everywhere in our sexualized culture. I would encouraged anyone interested in this topic to watch "Are all men pedophiles" documentary it was on netflixs not sure if it still is. It brings up a lot of very interesting things such as the average of models on magazines being 16 and very sexualized.
    Another important point is it's normalizing deviant behaviour in young people, especially males. Anal is basically expected these days etc., I don't think it can create a healthy sexual identity when it's forming pre-conceived concepts of what is normal behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakexe View Post
    Another important point is it's normalizing deviant behaviour in young people, especially males. Anal is basically expected these days etc., I don't think it can create a healthy sexual identity when it's forming pre-conceived concepts of what is normal behaviour.
    People are quick to change their mind about that if I tell them to let me go with a strap-on, on them, before they can do it to me. <.<

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    A significant portion of "sex" is in the brain, and the brain is malleable. For males, the more sexual stuff you see from non-realistic sources (most media)... the more "sex" will be significantly changed for that person. So regardless of what you think about it morally/ethically, at least believe that porn viewing changes who you are as a sexual being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakexe View Post
    Another important point is it's normalizing deviant behaviour in young people, especially males. Anal is basically expected these days etc., I don't think it can create a healthy sexual identity when it's forming pre-conceived concepts of what is normal behaviour.
    Deviant from the generation prior perhaps - but within the same generation it's normalized behaviour. All that's really saying is that Millennials are comparatively kinky in relation to their parents. Also, part of what your seeing isn't so much a change in behaviour as it is a change in the discussion of the behaviour - before it wasn't discussed publicly - but Millennials didn't invent Anal, it's been around awhile: the Boomers just didn't make sex jokes on Leave It To Beaver: we do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    For an understanding of what men actually find attractive, google the top pornstars by internet views sometime - Sasha Grey is the twiggiest one you'll find - and people aren't really into her for her body: they like her because she's a freak - she's an exception not the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by adam86shadow View Post
    Do you think watching pornography whilst in a relationship is disrespectful or even a form of cheating?
    I know a happily married couple with kids who frequently brings home others to have sex with. Meanwhile watching porn is a form of cheating? It's entirely to each their own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilla Blomma View Post
    People are quick to change their mind about that if I tell them to let me go with a strap-on, on them, before they can do it to me. <.<
    Apparently a growing trend of heterosexuals are into pegging

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakexe View Post
    Anal is basically expected these days etc., I don't think it can create a healthy sexual identity when it's forming pre-conceived concepts of what is normal behaviour.
    There's bunches of us guys who don't care for anal. I've never seen the attraction. Maybe if a guy watched a lot of porn he would think that was the norm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakexe View Post
    Another important point is it's normalizing deviant behaviour in young people, especially males. Anal is basically expected these days etc., I don't think it can create a healthy sexual identity when it's forming pre-conceived concepts of what is normal behaviour.
    its never normal to expect YOUR life to be exactly the same as others, regardless if its others sex lives or others taste in music

    if you base your sexual expectations on what a stranger did on film, you are the one with the issues, not the stranger making a film

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    Deviant from the generation prior perhaps - but within the same generation it's normalized behaviour.
    But it's been normalized from media. The generation didn't grow into it or suddenly decide anal is aok. It was advertised as normal behaviour in the porn industry, the kids didn't work it out for themselves, and I think that's an incredibly important thing to figure out for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jakexe View Post
    Another important point is it's normalizing deviant behaviour in young people, especially males. Anal is basically expected these days etc., I don't think it can create a healthy sexual identity when it's forming pre-conceived concepts of what is normal behaviour.
    The norm changes over time. It was normal to view your wife as property hundreds of years ago. It isn't a bad thing that thats changed. Likewise, its not a bad thing that anal isn't viewed as "yee haww, anal is the road to hell, boy!" these days (it still is in most of the world). You could argue that its bad due to diseases possible from that, but really even regular vanilla sex has a shit ton of diseases that can come with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilla Blomma View Post
    People are quick to change their mind about that if I tell them to let me go with a strap-on, on them, before they can do it to me. <.<
    That wouldnt stop me *cough*

    A men sometimes has to suffer to get what was promised to him.

    I wouldnt force it on someone, but your "joke" would backfire most likely
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