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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by Raptar View Post
    I don't understand why people "lol" MoP all the time, or bash it. I think you really can say - from an objective perspective - that MoP was a legendary expansion. Blizzard made a really inovative expansion, very different from the rest. Great landscapes, raids, character options et cetera. Didn't think I would say this, but I miss the "happy" and good feelings too from MoP.
    Bc MOP is garbage, that's why. Idk why you think you saying the landscapes are "great" is an "objective" perspective. An objective perspective is that "Kun-Lai Summit was smaller and had smaller set-pieces than Storm Peaks." An objective perspective is, "Siege of Ogrimarr went on for so long that it resulted in increased poll numbers of dissatisfied players."

    I personally thought our homebase Shrines lacked faction personality and were boring moreso than Garrisons, and that Valley of the Four Winds, Karasang Wilds, Kun-Lai Summit and the Vale of Eternal Blossoms were very underwhelming especially after the Sha Nuke in the Vale, and the only good zones were Dread Wastes and Towlong Steppes, and they were not properly taken advantage of because you barely needed to step foot in Dread Wastes. I think the starting zone of Jade Forest is one of the least replayable starting zones in the game to date outside of Shadowmoon Valley, and the monkeys the horde had to deal with and the Jin-whatever fish that the alliance had to deal with were intolerable.

    I liked the traditional RPG setup of needing to go to individual zones to get Rep-specific loot, and I liked that the valorish system was still in place. I think that Mists neglected a lot of faction based heat randomly through the zones, so there was a strange disconnect when you walked into the Valley from the Jade Forest, and then from the Valley into Karasang Wilds or Kun-Lai where it picked up again randomly. I disliked how Chen Stormstout, a legendary Pandaren mercenary Brewmaster explorer/adventurer was turned into a sniveling crybaby looking for his family. I disliked how Blizzard took a childish route and had us escort his niece around while we kicked pumpkins and harvested silk, and I disliked how instead of using Asian themes as an inspiration, Blizzard straight up ripped off and poorly implemented cultural themes. Tiger/Ox/Crane, concepts of balance in emotions and not addressing cyclical themes and rebirth left their story pretty weak.

    The entire storyline with Wrathion in that he had "future plans" were not addressed in WoD really, and somehow ties into the books, and I'm also not a fan of that. Overall, Mists was objectively decent, and I felt it was garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Ummmm... No. In fact, most people here whom mentioned they enjoyed mop specifically site that siege was one of the only burps in that expansion...

    ...and you damn well know that.
    Longest fucking bump of all time. Lasted a year or more I think. And before ppl say the encounters were amazing plz gtfo out of here. Immerseus = boring as fuck. Protectors = Decent. Norushen = Decent. Sha = Trash. Galakrond = Trash. Scorpion Tank = Good. Shamans = Decent clusterfuck. Nazgrim = Trash. Mutated Garbageface = Trash. Spoils = Trash. Blackfuse = The greatest Trash on the planet. 5000 Klaaxi = Why are they even here also Trash. and OH YEAH GARROSH = Trash.

    Moving on.

  2. #282
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoncurry View Post
    Longest fucking bump of all time. Lasted a year or more I think.
    Siege of Ogrimmar was a decent raid, discounting the time it was forced to stick around.

    And before ppl say the encounters were amazing plz gtfo out of here.
    Aggressive dismissal of other people's opinions. Nice.

    Immerseus = boring as fuck. Protectors = Decent. Norushen = Decent. Sha = Trash. Galakrond = Trash. Scorpion Tank = Good. Shamans = Decent clusterfuck. Nazgrim = Trash. Mutated Garbageface = Trash. Spoils = Trash. Blackfuse = The greatest Trash on the planet. 5000 Klaaxi = Why are they even here also Trash. and OH YEAH GARROSH = Trash.
    All of the above is nothing but your opinion. But as for Garrosh, are you talking about the trash packs before Garrosh's room, or are you calling the fight a 'trash fight'? Because I'd invite you to take a look at all the other end-of-expansion bosses: Kel'Thuzad... then Illidan (the fight with fewer adds)... then Lich King... then Deathwing... then Garrosh... and now Archimonde.

    Moving on.
    According to the tone of your post... it doesn't seem like you moved on at all.

  3. #283
    Quote Originally Posted by proteen View Post
    I miss the MoP zones (mainly Isle of Thunder), but the raids? Not at all.
    Not even ToT?

  4. #284
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragoncurry View Post
    Longest fucking bump of all time. Lasted a year or more I think. And before ppl say the encounters were amazing plz gtfo out of here. Immerseus = boring as fuck. Protectors = Decent. Norushen = Decent. Sha = Trash. Galakrond = Trash. Scorpion Tank = Good. Shamans = Decent clusterfuck. Nazgrim = Trash. Mutated Garbageface = Trash. Spoils = Trash. Blackfuse = The greatest Trash on the planet. 5000 Klaaxi = Why are they even here also Trash. and OH YEAH GARROSH = Trash.

    Moving on.
    I liked Siege when it first came out.

    I won't defend Immerseus, I think he was terrible and always was terrible. Sucked equally on Raid Finder, Normal, Heroic all modes also.

    Though a lot of the "trash" bosses were actually somewhat difficult bosses, as bosses, initially. Klaxxi was pretty hard on 25H for instance, and Garrosh was also extremely difficult due to execution requirements. The first 8 were easy, but our group (cleared them within first couple of weeks) hit berserk on Nazgrim for sure, and I think cut it pretty close on a few of the others (Fallen Protectors believe it or not was berserk-able if you didn't split run for gear).

    Sha was terrible because on Heroic you just ignored the Gift and Pride mechanic because it was way easier to just burn the boss than worry about managing them. Norushen was pretty bad too actually, when they nerfed Heroic into overglorified Normal it just capped it off.

    Though point is all of the bosses became trash when you got +16 item levels and shit, but doesn't that happen to all bosses after big nerfs?

  5. #285
    For some reason, I keep thinking of 'subscriber churn' whenever I encounter threads like this.
    Whoever loves let him flourish. / Let him perish who knows not love. / Let him perish twice who forbids love. - Pompeii

  6. #286
    I will never miss MoP. To me that was the lowest point ever in WoW.

  7. #287
    I haven't played MoP much, but I absolutely loved the setting. The world just felt full of life. Then we got WoD with a completely empty world with nothing to see after completing quests - if you even bothered, I personally haven't set foot in Nagrand outside of wolf farming zone after hitting 100, and I only visited other zones for a world boss once a week and on my way to raids.

    IMO Pandaria was the best continent ever made, and the questing experience was equal to WoD (though this really is personal preference, I can understand people that hate pandas also hated questing).
    Quote Originally Posted by Maxos View Post
    When you play the game of MMOs, you win or you go f2p.

  8. #288
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNeil View Post
    Its funny how Cata and MoP are now looking so fondly here, I've even seen people using the nostalgia excuse for WotLK lol. Considering how bad WoD is, I guess I can't blame them. Comparing a huge pile of shit with a little pile of shit makes that little pile not look that bad after all...
    It's not funny and it's not even remotely true.

  9. #289
    I'm surprised how easily everyone forgot how MoP shat all over the lore. Does anyone remember how Varian was supposed to get development, but instead we got scenarios where all the faction leaders bowed down to his wisdom for no apparent reason? How Tyrande was cowed before the all intelligent Varian? What about when Garry went from "Honor, never forsake it" to "They are not part of my Horde" literally out of the Blue. Everyone was baffled on how poorly his entire story was written. Did everyone forget how much hate the whole Alliance/Horde war got because we knew there were going to be no consequences? Can't forget the entire shitshow that was the MoP ending cinematic where Varian shakes his fist at the Horde after all the crap that was pulled in MoP because the World of Warcraft is so good that no sanctions can exist. Hell, the Alliance were so uninvolved in the entire expansion that not only were quest chains abruptly dropped, but that the game would make MORE sense if there was no Alliance involved in MoP at all. As for the entirety of Pandaria and it's content, it had nothing to do with nothing. No consequences were had, no continuation of any previous storylines, no continuation of MoP storylines, the entire story of the expansion was so contained that it could be summarized in cutscenes. So much made so little sense that WoD is a logical continuation of all the lollore in MoP. The expansion was terrible and the only explanation as to why this I can see these faults as forgotten is because all the players who cared about the story already left.
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