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    U.S. Government Stealing Citizen's Unapologetically Land

    The Bureau of Land Management is making moves to confiscate over half of a rancher's 1200 acre property - including the portion where the rancher's house actually sits.

    This is absolute bullshit. We're not just talking imminent domain here - this is the government coming in out of the blue and just declaring, "yeah, we know this has been your land for over 70 years, but fuck off, it's ours now." Land of the free indeed. Looks like the BLM has been taken over by communists. I hope the ranchers have guns, because this is an instance where defending one's property against unlawful seizure is completely justified and why the 2nd Amendment was created in the first place.

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    Also from the Article "The deal isn’t done, according to Paul McGuire, a BLM public affairs specialist. A land survey must be completed first. He said a final plan wouldn’t be ready until 2018."

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    thats old school american

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboa24 View Post
    The Bureau of Land Management is making moves to confiscate over half of a rancher's 1200 acre property - including the portion where the rancher's house actually sits.

    This is absolute bullshit. We're not just talking imminent domain here - this is the government coming in out of the blue and just declaring, "yeah, we know this has been your land for over 70 years, but fuck off, it's ours now." Land of the free indeed. Looks like the BLM has been taken over by communists. I hope the ranchers have guns, because this is an instance where defending one's property against unlawful seizure is completely justified and why the 2nd Amendment was created in the first place.
    Well regulated and trained militia. Or do you forget that part.
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    Can't link cause on phone but the Texas tribune has an article from 2014 that explains why this is happening.

    Basically, in 1919 the SC ruled that Texas had all land south of the river medial line, ok north, and BLM in between. A river is always moving, and a slow movement means the border moves, and thus the BLM claims change

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    this certainly isnt clickbait

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    Whats the purpose in a government organization owning it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlorik View Post
    Whats the purpose in a government organization owning it?
    Help manage public land and border disputes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crissi View Post
    Can't link cause on phone but the Texas tribune has an article from 2014 that explains why this is happening.

    Basically, in 1919 the SC ruled that Texas had all land south of the river medial line, ok north, and BLM in between. A river is always moving, and a slow movement means the border moves, and thus the BLM claims change
    http://www.texastribune.org/2014/04/...licated-histo/

    Now we start tallying how many people will actually inform themself or how many will kneejerk themselves in to action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garlorik View Post
    Whats the purpose in a government organization owning it?
    "After a century of peaceful cross-border cattle drives and wagon crossings, the 1919 discovery of oil near the line sparked a U.S. Supreme Court showdown between Texas and Oklahoma. The court ruled that Oklahoma controlled lands to the north of the river’s “medial line,” which stretched directly between its north and south gradients or “cut banks,” cliffs the water had carved. Texas controlled land below the south bank. The federal government took control of land between the medial line and the Texas bank because no one had ever parceled it out to either state. That's the sliver BLM now claims. "
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Well regulated and trained militia. Or do you forget that part.
    Do you understand the concept of a preamble? While a militia is one reason to preserve the rights of the citizens to keep arms, the primary purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the right of the common citizen to keep and bear arms. If the sole intention was for a militia to be maintained, then that's all that the Second Amendment would say. The intent was to prevent the government from becoming just like the British government they had just overthrown. The intention was to allow the citizens to fight back if things went to hell and the government went all totalitarian on us.

    Anyone who seriously buys and spreads that bullshit that guns are only for militias fails at reading comprehension.

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    Thanks for the link rukh! I knew the original story smelled fishy. Remember, Google is your friend! Also, Texas Tribune is far more balanced the Western review

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboa24 View Post
    Do you understand the concept of a preamble? While a militia is one reason to preserve the rights of the citizens to keep arms, the primary purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the right of the common citizen to keep and bear arms. If the sole intention was for a militia to be maintained, then that's all that the Second Amendment would say. The intent was to prevent the government from becoming just like the British government they had just overthrown. The intention was to allow the citizens to fight back if things went to hell and the government went all totalitarian on us.

    Anyone who seriously buys and spreads that bullshit that guns are only for militias fails at reading comprehension.
    Guns won't protect you from a government that has full military force. And the second amendment was made during a time of a foriegn nation invading and we had to protect ourselves and the *guns* back then took forever to use(Muskets). It might of worked back then as they are now but times have changed. I'm pointing out the second amendment CAN be regulated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboa24 View Post
    Do you understand the concept of a preamble? While a militia is one reason to preserve the rights of the citizens to keep arms, the primary purpose of the Second Amendment is to preserve the right of the common citizen to keep and bear arms. If the sole intention was for a militia to be maintained, then that's all that the Second Amendment would say. The intent was to prevent the government from becoming just like the British government they had just overthrown. The intention was to allow the citizens to fight back if things went to hell and the government went all totalitarian on us.

    Anyone who seriously buys and spreads that bullshit that guns are only for militias fails at reading comprehension.
    you are bringing a gun to a drone fight?

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    Laws are for poor people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kyoloco View Post
    you are bringing a gun to a drone fight?
    If guns are so useless in a government standoff scenario, then why do liberals want to disarm the population so badly? And I guarantee you, if the order came to use drones on Americans I guarantee you it'll be civil war and half the military would turn on their superiors anyways.

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    they did it to the native americans so....
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    Quote Originally Posted by jimboa24 View Post
    If guns are so useless in a government standoff scenario, then why do liberals want to disarm the population so badly? And I guarantee you, if the order came to use drones on Americans I guarantee you it'll be civil war and half the military would turn on their superiors anyways.
    Because liberals don't care about your fantasy government standoffs, they want to stop seeing piles of bodies every year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Guns won't protect you from a government that has full military force. And the second amendment was made during a time of a foriegn nation invading and we had to protect ourselves and the *guns* back then took forever to use(Muskets). It might of worked back then as they are now but times have changed. I'm pointing out the second amendment CAN be regulated.
    Against an individual, you are correct, wouldn't do him much good against the government.

    Against even 5% of the civilian population of the United States, the US Military wouldn't stand a chance as they would effectively be out manned, out gunned, and lost the majority of their own support which is provided by the civilian sector. That isn't even going into the fact of just how many military would either lay their guns down or change sides when forced to fight their own people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rukh View Post
    Because liberals don't care about your fantasy government standoffs, they want to stop seeing piles of bodies every year.
    "piles of bodies" get over yourself seriously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizendragon View Post
    "piles of bodies" get over your self seriously.
    Why you mad tho?
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