YouTube Red

[Acelius]

You are confusing old media hype with reallity. You have to be in the PewDiePie league to make millions. That's a very small number of people.

Proof by example: standard rate for a million views is $400. Now go and look your favourite wow youtuber-at best they'll be getting a few hundred thousands views when they upload. It is a semi-skilled wage that requires a significant backlog of videos to make good money. Those people are elite-most youtubers won't see a fraction of that. And that money is under increasing attack from widespread use of adblock-type software.

Even if what you wrote were actually true then I don't know why you would expect them to continue working for nothing.

It still doesn't change the facts that the money generated from Youtube videos are just fine. People upload videos for fun, if they reach 100k subs they earn enough to do it full-time.

[haxartus]

Depends on the content I would say. 10 euro/dollar a month is quite cheap for hours of entertainment.

Depends on the entertainment.
The latest TV shows or a movie - yes, $10 a month is worth it.
Some random guy playing a video game - no way.
Currently most of the content is in the second category and is absolutely not worth $10 a month.

[derpkitteh]

Isn't his stuff on normalboots.com anyways?

yeah, i think that's the pay site his stuff goes up on first, then he uploads to his youtube later.

but still, it might be seen as a way to get double the money, unless normalboots would have some kind of rule against it.

[Ealyssa]

High-rated youtubers are already millionaries, they don't need money from monthly payments.

They don't "need" it, but they certainly want it... What will your inexistent concurence offer ?

[Acelius]

They don't "need" it, but they certainly want it... What will your inexistent concurence offer ?

Of course they want it. But Youtube is risking shooting themselves in the foot with this. The whole world has seen how big Youtube became as a free service, heck the creators of Youtube sold the service to Google for 1.6 BILLION dollars back in 2006. By creating a paywall they effectively open up the market for other free videosharing services and the users might dissappear to other free alternatives.

[Tinykong]

Those bastards.... We've been asking for this in the YouTube android app for ages, and now they are gonna charge for it.. -_-

You can already do it for free:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...sov.popupvideo

[Deleted]

I will get Youtube Red. I disabled my adblocker on Youtube to support content creators, but I find that quite a lot of content I watch is hindered by the popup ads, like Minecraft, Hearthstone and other content. I think Youtube Red is the best way to support the creators for me.

No ads is not even the biggest reason for me. Being able to watch videos offline on my mobile devices solves one of my biggest first world problems right now, being that my 1 GB download cap on mobile stops me from watching content on the go, like when I'm in a car or at a restaurant with no wifi. I can have my content preloaded.

The background videos isn't really an issue for me, but having Google Play Music along with it is delightful as well.

[Pratt]

I'll probably pay just for legit way to watch youtube vids offline. Couldn't care less about the rest. I already have adblock, netflix, and spotify.

I'd pay more than that to get sponsored tweets out of my twitter timeline. First world problem number 1 right there.

[breadisfunny]

I get the mindset that everything should be free. What I don't get is the mindset that everything should be free and not ad-supported or anything else. The content creators have to get paid somehow.

Some people do youtube for free(I do), but that seriously restricts the amount of time you can spend on it, the equipment you can buy and so on.

i would gladly stop using ad block once they do one thing. stop letting ads with malicious viruses and crap get through. until they decide to take the initial responsibility for vetting ads i refuse to unuse adblock.

[Tziva]

If the content creators decide to put their content behind a monthly payment, I'm simply not going to watch them. It is as simple as that.

Paid Content -- that is locking your channel behind a paywall -- is (a) a different thing than YouTube Red (b) already a feature that YouTube has had for a very long time. If your channels didn't use it before, they are probably not going to use it now.

Although it has other minor features, YouTube Red is essentially paying a flat fee to avoid ads on videos. Nothing more, nothing less. Don't pay the fee? You still see videos, but you see them with ads. Or you pay nothing, use ad block, and your YouTube experience remains virtually identical to what it is now.

"And starting early next year, YouTube Red will get even better with member-only access to new, original shows and movies from some of YouTube’s biggest creators."

Where do they get the time to make that new and original content? Some are putting out content daily so I really don't think that free content isn't going to suffer. And once they find out there is more money to make by making "new and original shows" for members only then they will most likely gravitate towards that. Maybe not instantly but maybe after a year or so.

I don't disagree with that, but that's still a different thing that what I was responding to/talking about.

Also, that sort of assumes that YouTube Red is successful enough to make it worth the cost of creating original content there. I'm not really sure if it will be; $10 a month for blocking ads with a few other minor perks is a pretty steep fee. I can't see a lot of people paying it, especially in the demographic that some of the announced original content will appeal to.

We'll see on that.

[Kasierith]

Also, that sort of assumes that YouTube Red is successful enough to make it worth the cost of creating original content there. I'm not really sure if it will be; $10 a month for blocking ads with a few other minor perks is a pretty steep fee. I can't see a lot of people paying it, especially in the demographic that some of the announced original content will appeal to.

We'll see on that.

I know I will be. I listen to a lot of music at work, and made heavy use of those cache-oriented youtube apps before they were basically litigated to death. It's cheaper than unlimited data, ultimately.

[Cosmic Janitor]

i would gladly stop using ad block once they do one thing. stop letting ads with malicious viruses and crap get through. until they decide to take the initial responsibility for vetting ads i refuse to unuse adblock.

I agree. For the longest time I wasn't using it. But after infecting my pc with a really nasty virus twice within half a year I said fuck it, and blocked all adds except a very select few I somewhat trust. And this is not even mentioning the adds that fart out of your speakers at max volume or load gigabytes worth of video.. fuck that, seriously. Most sites are at least partially to blame for people using add blockers.

[Gheld]

This poor piggy is just getting slathered in makeup.
#1. It's dumb.
#2. Yeah theres suckers out there who will pay.
#3. Those are the same people who slowly ruin consumerism for everyone else by bending over and saying "please, sir, I'd like some more" every time price goes up or product quality goes down.

[Deleted]

i would gladly stop using ad block once they do one thing. stop letting ads with malicious viruses and crap get through. until they decide to take the initial responsibility for vetting ads i refuse to unuse adblock.

You cannot get a virus from youtube.

[Drekker17]

If it went to people I like then I would consider, though I don't care about most ads, but I have no desire to support pewdiepie, Tyler Oakley and other youtubers I think suck.

[Yunru]

Pretty sure google bought adblock not too long ago, they also gave everyone a youtube extension on some chrome update that blocked the functionality of adblock on youtube.

http://thenextweb.com/apps/2015/10/0...-we-block-ads/


I switched to ublock origins, so I already get half of that offer for free. I could also just download a youtube video using one of the many websites that let you do that as well.

Completely useless service honestly.

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Back when youtube wasn't owned by google, those video sharing chatrooms they had were my favorite place on the internet.

They made a copy and named it ad-block + . The original addblock still blocks, but you need to refresh filters from time to time.

[Tziva]

On my mobile I've noticed a shit load more unskippable long ads. Sometimes I'll get a spree of 30s Netflix ads after every 3min long video... thats insane.

FWIW, that means that channel has opted to implement that time of ad. Channels that monetize get to choose what kind of ad experience their viewers get, so if you're seeing a ton of those and hate them, it might be worth giving feedback to the channels that use them. They certainly pay a lot more, but they can end up being not worth it overall if too many people leave their video/channel, so some channels opt not to use them. They might appreciate hearing an opinion on the matter; it might force them to look at their analytics and see if its worth it.

[Deleted]

Then that explains why pewdiepie shits out videos all the time. Now back on topic. I use adblock for 2 main reasons

1. Video ads in the background. THis is something this forum and wowhead are guilty of, I understand that websites need cash to run so it's a chatch 22. It also leads to my 2nd reason

2. Unscrupulous ad providers. Even now wowhead and many p0rn websites have a big problem with ads that inject malware, ransomware and a myriad of other things into your computer, phone, or tablet.

Combine that with the fact radio and TV are just filled to the brim with 5-8 minute blocks of ads means that the consumer is burnt out and tired of it. Looking at you walking dead (thank goodness for DVR)

This website is designed by someone who hates people.

That said, I think talking about all this stuff in the context of a youtube thread is unfair. They don't do any of the things you mention, and the ads take up less time than, say, yahoo. Which is a first for me, sticking up for a gigantic tax-dodging bloodsucking corporation. But people do have to get paid for stuff or stuff doesn't get done.