Arms Legion Discussion

[Archimtiros]

I know it wasnt a slow specs like blizz wants it now , but I did enjoy that arms.

Blizzard abandoned the "slow" spec concept late in WoD beta. In fact they sped up the rotation three times, and twice again after launch. I wouldn't even call what is on Alpha now slow by any means, it's sitting comfortable at around 50-60 APM.

Obviously going too fast (Gladiator) is problematic, but inordinately slow rotations don't work any better. It simply isn't the type of gameplay that WoW is built around.

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Blizzard abandoned the "slow" spec concept late in WoD beta. In fact they sped up the rotation three times, and twice again after launch. I wouldn't even call what is on Alpha now slow by any means, it's sitting comfortable at around 50-60 APM.

Obviously going too fast (Gladiator) is problematic, but inordinately slow rotations don't work any better. It simply isn't the type of gameplay that WoW is built around.

Would u say that, Arms on the Alpha is as fast as it was in MoP?

[Archimtiros]

Would u say that, Arms on the Alpha is as fast as it was in MoP?

No, it doesn't have the same Overpower or Heroic Strike, but that doesn't necessarily make it "slow". It'd say it's on average for melee specs.

[Hitchens]

I hope Overpower becomes baseline. Having to choose it over Avatar is actually really tragic.

Also, the loss of Spell Reflection, Fear, and Intervene (baseline) really hurts our utility in Arena. Disappointing, to say the least.

[Archimtiros]

I hope Overpower becomes baseline. Having to choose it over Avatar is actually really tragic.

Also, the loss of Spell Reflection, Fear, and Intervene (baseline) really hurts our utility in Arena. Disappointing, to say the least.

I think the PvP talents make up for it, there are some really nasty effects hidden in that tree.

[Celarent]

(which has universally awful set appearances).

Dude. Shannox's face!

[nativity]

Pity that CS extension was not reverted in the latest build... SB looks like a bit overkill to me, 400% AP damage with a potential to hit 1600% ?

[Archimtiros]

Something I think we missed. Storm Bolt is 400% Attack Power not weapon damage. Still good, but not quite as stronk as perhaps we originally thought.

It's still pretty strong. Testing on Fury (because my Arms toon kept crashing), with the stun component, it hits slightly harder than a Raging Blow or Bloodthirst, but the 4x damage v stun immune makes it worth pressing again.

[Caargon]

I hope Overpower becomes baseline. Having to choose it over Avatar is actually really tragic.

Also, the loss of Spell Reflection, Fear, and Intervene (baseline) really hurts our utility in Arena. Disappointing, to say the least.

I'd like to see spell reflect in the pvp tree given most of it is moar damage but we still get some strong utility. Sharpen blade alone is... Woof. Do remember that everyone lost half their cc, anti-cc, mobility, utility, wingers, dingers and screamers.

[Artunias]

Storm Bolt is definitely a satisfying button to press during CS windows. Very nice.

Extension mechanic still needs to come back.

[Breccia]

Isnt this nice , ret gets pretty much the same mastery as we do...so much for being unique ;/

If it makes you feel any worse, DKs stole Prot mastery too.

[Ravingmad]

Arm warrior has always been my favorite warrior spec (from a fantasy point of view), I cant wait to try it.

[Artunias]

Ret mastery change does leave a foul taste in my mouth. Classes are still different, but still. MEH.

[Warriorsarri]

Just thinking out loud, wouldn't it make some sense to put the CS reset mechanic on Heroic Throw? Currently we lose everything DPS wise as soon as we leave melee range, but if we had a chance to reset CS Heroic Throw may be worth pressing, outside of its abmysal damage (and chance to proc OPs if speced into it).

[Deleted]

Not really an Arms Warrior question but more in regards to the latest Alpha patch, is there anywhere I can find the details of the patch? Can't seem to find it anywhere except for the post with "2/23 Alpha build design notes" from Celestalon...

Cheers.

[chooi]

Not really an Arms Warrior question but more in regards to the latest Alpha patch, is there anywhere I can find the details of the patch? Can't seem to find it anywhere except for the post with "2/23 Alpha build design notes" from Celestalon...

MMO-Champion or wowhead frontpage.

(I prefer wowhead as it's visually more appealing to me.)

[Ferozan]

So apparently Heroic Strike damage is being added to Mortal Strike damage. The "Shattered Defenses" artifact trait is adding +50% damage and crit chance on top of it.

It is doing a pretty nasty damage on CS windows. The only thing i think is that Heroic Strike should cost 20+ rage, stacking to 2 instead of 15 stacking to 3, damage being reorganized.

Lets just hope our best build doesn't involve something like Storm Bolt/Overpower/Rend/Heroic Strike or we are going to have to press lots of buttons boys, and i really mean a lot of them.

[Tyze]

Arm warrior has always been my favorite warrior spec (from a fantasy point of view), I cant wait to try it.

Same, I hope it will be good. But Fury will probably be the best spec.

When was Arms the "best" warrior spec in pve?

[Katie45]

Same, I hope it will be good. But Fury will probably be the best spec.

When was Arms the "best" warrior spec in pve?

Cata, during the last patch

[Dreadnaught]

When was Arms the "best" warrior spec in pve?

Now. Fury is only used on Kormrok, Iskar, Mannoroth, and maybe Xhul. Arms is considerably better on the majority of the other fights. Also Arms dominated during Dragon Soul completely, if I recall. It's true that those are two examples out of many tiers, but keep this in mind: one significant reason that Arms was so powerful in those two tiers is because there was a Colossus Smash reset mechanic, which was a huge power boost. It's the class trinket now, and was a set bonus in Dragon Soul. Arms gets a CS reset mechanic for free in Legion. That doesn't make all the difference by itself, but it does seem like they want people to play Arms more.