1. #9181
    Yo .....

    What's gonna happen to our legos now? Execute Ring and Gloves and Pants? They're adding something to them now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatsujin View Post
    Yo .....

    What's gonna happen to our legos now? Execute Ring and Gloves and Pants? They're adding something to them now.
    And, Says who?

  3. #9183
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinka View Post
    Anyone else feels Arms starts to scale pretty bad? (Not counting getting carried by DoS.)
    Mastery is fine and all. But it just feels the other stats are so insignificant it really starts to decline now the ilvls become higher. Mainly raw strength scaling.
    I could be wrong and all. But i see a lot of classes pulling much smoother numbers with lower ilvl and less effort. Especially in cleave.
    arms is scaling bad cause there is no mastery on the gear in nighthold, its one of the many problems

  4. #9184
    No mastery, and that none of the other stats does anything significant for Arms.

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    I doubt that anything happens to ring, pants, or gloves. We might see extra stats added to the bracers, boots, shoulders, or something like that. That's all that blizzard has implied so far.

  5. #9185
    Quote Originally Posted by Ansible View Post
    I have the same question as the poster you quoted. I end up using BC/Avatar/DoS on opener, then I have another BC without Avatar and DoS. Once BC comes up again, I have around 10 second left on DoS and 20 seconds Avatar, so I hold my BC and DoS for Avatar. Should I not?
    You want to use CS then BC/Avatar then use MS and 1 extra global before you use the trinket.
    That will bring your CD to 10s and 17s. for the 3rd BC you stall until Ava and trinket are up again

  6. #9186
    my sims show 4pc with head/shoulders/chest/cloak and anomaly legs 3-4k dps over head/shoulders/legs/cloak and gul'dan chest (the anomalylegs beeing 900 with a socket and the gul'dan chest beeing 910 even)

    i wonder how this is possible, i mean it is not even close althought the gul'dan chest setup is even 10 ilvls ahead.

    is haste a tad overrated?

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    what is the status of arms at 7.2? i am fury atm, but always been arms player, and i am tempting to play it again

    but with more gear, fury will surely go ahead, anyone simed/tested ptr?

  8. #9188
    So i heard it's better to cleave+whirlwind rather than bladestorm during BC. If so at how many targets?
    Also when running sweeping+Fr in M+ you recon is better to use rage for Fr instead of whirlwind? At 3-4 targets.

  9. #9189
    Quote Originally Posted by Teaon View Post
    what is the status of arms at 7.2? i am fury atm, but always been arms player, and i am tempting to play it again

    but with more gear, fury will surely go ahead, anyone simed/tested ptr?
    I haven't seen anything yet, but furys set bouses are pretty bad for t20, and I am not sure if ours are that much better or not. I guess it depends on the new gear, if theres alot of mastery arms might go up above it, if not, things might stay how they are now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner45 View Post
    I haven't seen anything yet, but furys set bouses are pretty bad for t20, and I am not sure if ours are that much better or not. I guess it depends on the new gear, if theres alot of mastery arms might go up above it, if not, things might stay how they are now
    i just checked the gear, 3 pieces with mastery, one with lots (legs) the other 2 set pieces are low

    however, arms relics are shit in ToS, utility everywhere.

  11. #9191
    Quote Originally Posted by Teaon View Post
    i just checked the gear, 3 pieces with mastery, one with lots (legs) the other 2 set pieces are low

    however, arms relics are shit in ToS, utility everywhere.
    thats a bit more mastery than this tier lol

  12. #9192
    Future raids will no longer drop the non-throughout relics, so alternative means to acquire them will be added.

    ^ ... I don't understand this.

  13. #9193
    I play Arms right now and I gotta say, its very competitive, but dont take my word for it, its very simple to see if a spec is competitive in real time, heres how:

    Go to warcraftlogs.com and watch the mythic bosses, check the top dpsers for fury and top dpsers for arms, fury is only slightly ahead on most bosses while arms have higher dps on 1-3 bosses. For a spec that is supposedely MUCH BETTER THAN ARMS RIGHT NOW, i find it rather embarassing seeing pretty much 95% of the people switching over to fury, thats my opinion atleast.

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    You find it embarrassing that a spec that performs better on the majority of the fights in a tier is a spec that a lot of people switched to? Okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seramore View Post
    You find it embarrassing that a spec that performs better on the majority of the fights in a tier is a spec that a lot of people switched to? Okay.
    not just that, less rng and less frustration

  16. #9196
    Quote Originally Posted by Katyusha View Post
    I play Arms right now and I gotta say, its very competitive, but dont take my word for it, its very simple to see if a spec is competitive in real time, heres how:

    Go to warcraftlogs.com and watch the mythic bosses, check the top dpsers for fury and top dpsers for arms, fury is only slightly ahead on most bosses while arms have higher dps on 1-3 bosses. For a spec that is supposedely MUCH BETTER THAN ARMS RIGHT NOW, i find it rather embarassing seeing pretty much 95% of the people switching over to fury, thats my opinion atleast.
    What an embarassment that people are switching because a spec perfoms better and the gameplay is more fun to them lol

  17. #9197
    Ya its mostly because its less frustration

  18. #9198
    Quote Originally Posted by Gunner45 View Post
    Ya its mostly because its less frustration
    Totally agree. This patch destroyed Arms all together, but the next patch seems to be heading towards Arms. We get to put 1 extra point in Tactician and 1 extra point in Precise Strikes. Plus, DPS relics will now drop in Tomb of Sargeras which I'm so happy about! Hopefully we see at least two Tactician relics!!!!

    The problem with Arms right now is the lack of Tactician relics in the raids and low sustained AoE.

    Also, don't forget that patch 7.2.5 will adjust classes heavily. Hope they could address Arms AoE or give us extra damage for ST to make us more dominant.

  19. #9199
    for me personaly arms is not fun anymore to much complicated and not fun to play.

  20. #9200
    Yesterday i had an odd experience in a Raid as Arms Warrior:

    The Game was being like "a frustrated, frigid wife" shouting at me: No!!! YOU wont get any Tactician proccs for at least the next 15 seconds till the CD of CS is off....No matter what i did, no matter how much fury i've spend or using CDs, no matter how i liked to be "the good hubby for my lovely tatician wife"...so i had to sit and wait like a "good and castrated hubby"...

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