How would a conservative America/Europe/World would look like?

[Mihalik]

As the title says- How would a conservative America/Europe/World would look like? How would you imagine it looking like?

I'm ESPECIALLY interested in the answer IF you are a conservative.

I'm not looking to debate the merits of one world view against another, but I'm rather curious to how you imagine that world.

[GennGreymane]

Conservative America =/= conservative Europe.

[Mihalik]

Conservative America =/= conservative Europe.

There are a number of parallels. Mostly in areas of religiosity, immigration, foreign policy, nationalism.

[Bakis]

There are a number of parallels. Mostly in areas of religiosity, immigration, foreign policy, nationalism.

Not really since Europe is vastly different depending on country and you treat it as a cohesive mass.

[PC2]

The US already takes immigrants who have skills, so I would keep that but make sure we have a strong border when it comes to illegal travel. A sustainable internal population would be key, it is more healthy to try and fix broken countries then continuously thinking you can save them via mass migration.

[Mihalik]

Not really since Europe is vastly different depending on country and you treat it as a cohesive mass.

Not really.

European conservatives generally tend to have common points. There really isn't as much ideological variation as you think there is.

I'm saying this as someone who is coming from a Hungarian/Greek family, was raised in the UK and is living in Spain, and have at various points lived for over 1 year periods in 3 other European countries.

European conservatives are typically similar. The two variations that appear is that some conservatives are straight up Eurosceptics, others are not and that some have ties to national religions, some don't, but regardless in all cases they tend to be sympathetic towards national sovereignty and tend to act as protectors or champions of national religious groups. They also UNIVERSALLY have nationalistic tendencies.

Believe me, there really isn't as much thematic variation as you want to believe there is.

[schwarzkopf]

The USA is already conservative, even the current administration is very right compared to world standards.

Gives you a good idea of what might happen if the rest of the world went that way.

[PC2]

even the current administration is very right compared to world standards.

Gives you a good idea of what might happen if the rest of the world went that way.

I take it you are not familiar with most of the world, particularly most of Asia and Africa.

[schwarzkopf]

I take it you are not familiar with most of the world, particularly most of Asia and Africa.

Yes... It was a generalisation, and China tips the scales to the left when it comes to things.

[PC2]

China tips the scales to the left when it comes to things.

You are saying China is left wing? I guess if you want to cede a lot freedoms(such as speech), pluralism, gay marriage, etc, as being right wing.

Update: Lately, I am thinking freedom of speech is more right wing...

[Bakis]

Not really.

European conservatives generally tend to have common points. There really isn't as much ideological variation as you think there is.

I'm saying this as someone who is coming from a Hungarian/Greek family, was raised in the UK and is living in Spain, and have at various points lived for over 1 year periods in 3 other European countries.

European conservatives are typically similar. The two variations that appear is that some conservatives are straight up Eurosceptics, others are not and that some have ties to national religions, some don't, but regardless in all cases they tend to be sympathetic towards national sovereignty and tend to act as protectors or champions of national religious groups. They also UNIVERSALLY have nationalistic tendencies.

Believe me, there really isn't as much thematic variation as you want to believe there is.

Well there arent even what could be described as a conservative party in some countries which to a degree reflect the impact of such values in the peoples views.
I will take Sweden as an example with your examples in mind (religiosity, immigration, foreign policy, nationalism.)
Religiosity - in terms of active church/other faith members among the fewest in europe.
Immigration - tricky since social democrats historically been the party with most restrictive immigration policies
Foreign policy - this need a clarification. WHich conservative values is attached to foreign policy
Nationalism - pretty low I would say, obviously we are proud of things but compared to many other countries rather low.

So the common point for what are concervative values is a bit blurry if speaking all of Europe.

[TrumpIsPresident]

Ambition, personal responsibility, civility, law & order, strength of character, respect and other similar traits would be more valued than they currently are.

[Mihalik]

Yes... It was a generalisation, and China tips the scales to the left when it comes to things.

China is many things except something that could be described as "left". Tho China describes itself as "communist" or "socialist" it doesn't really fit either category, and has much more in common with traditional Fascism. And Authoritarian government with a mixed economy, with intense protectionism and state intervention.

Tho it lacks fascism characteristic imperialism (tho it does seem to exhibit increasing amounts of it as of late) and autarkist tendencies.

[stabetha]

I take it you are not familiar with most of the world, particularly most of Asia and Africa.

Europe is the whole world though (at least in their eyes)

[Hooked]

It would be like heaven on earth. 84% of criminals in prisons are democrats, so crime would drop number 1.

[tj119]

Ambition, personal responsibility, civility, law & order, strength of character, respect and other similar traits would be more valued than they currently are.

You mean people would be responsible for their own actions?! Woah...we can't have that now. People are too stupid for that! We need rich old white people to tell us how to spend our money and live our lives!

[PC2]

Well there arent even what could be described as a conservative party in some countries which to a degree reflect the impact of such values in the peoples views.

You can put it on a spectrum with a median and say 50% is left or right of center. It works better for fiscal or marginal issues like how much you think the government should spend/tax, but obviously some issues are more complex and don't fit onto a spectrum as easily.

[Blur4stuff]

you could look to some US states for an answer. for example, Kansas republicans have complete control over the state. it's a disaster. for the most part, states that are completely or mostly controlled by republicans are worse off than the rest. there are a few exceptions.

[stabetha]

you could look to some US states for an answer. for example, Kansas republicans have complete control over the state. it's a disaster. for the most part, states that are completely or mostly controlled by republicans are worse off than the rest. there are a few exceptions.

complete nonsense, there are just as many liberal controlled states that are a mess and plenty of conservative states that are fine.

[Gestopft]

It would be like heaven on earth. 84% of criminals in prisons are democrats, so crime would drop number 1.

Would conservative America fix inner cities where the crime is the strongest?

Also, the states with the highest incarceration rates are overwhelmingly red states.