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    U.S. bombers flew near China-built islands in South China Sea: Pentagon

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0T12G720151113

    Two U.S. B-52 strategic bombers flew near artificial Chinese-built islands in the South China Sea this week and were contacted by Chinese ground controllers but continued their mission undeterred, the Pentagon said on Thursday.

    The latest U.S. patrol in the disputed South China Sea occurred in advance of President Barack Obama's visit to the region next week to attend Asia-Pacific summits where he is expected to reassert Washington's commitment to freedom of navigation and overflight in the area.

    China claims most of the South China Sea, through which more than $5 trillion in global trade passes every year, and the United States has said it will continue conducting patrols to assure unimpeded passage. Vietnam, Malaysia, Brunei, the Philippines and Taiwan have rival claims in the region.

    In the latest mission, on the night of Nov. 8 and 9, the bombers flew "in the area" of the Spratly Islands but did not come within the 12-nautical-mile zones that China claims as territory around islands it has built in the chain, said Commander Bill Urban, a Pentagon spokesman.

    "The B-52s were on a routine mission in the SCS (South China Sea)," taking off from and returning to Guam, Urban said.

    Chinese ground controllers contacted the bombers but the aircraft continued their mission unabated, Urban said.

    "We conduct B-52 flights in international air space in that part of the world all the time," Pentagon spokesman Peter Cook told a news briefing on Thursday.

    In Beijing, asked about the case, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Hong Lei said China respected all countries exercising freedom of navigation and overflight in the South China Sea in line with international law. "We resolutely oppose any country, in the name of freedom of navigation and overflight, harming and violating international law, harming China's sovereignty and security interests," he added.

    Last month, a U.S. warship challenged territorial limits around one of China's man-made islands in the Spratly archipelago with a so-called freedom-of-navigation patrol, the most significant U.S. challenge yet to territorial limits China claims around its new islands.

    China reacted angrily to the patrol.

    White House spokesman Josh Earnest said he did not know whether the South China Sea would be on the formal agenda at any of the three Asia summits Obama is to attend but added it would be "on the minds and lips" of the gathered world leaders.

    Obama's first stop will be Manila, for the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation forum summit, at which Chinese President Xi Jinping will also be present. The U.S. president will then go to Kuala Lumpur for ASEAN and East Asia summits.

    "We are quite concerned about protecting freedom of navigation, the free flow of commerce in the South China Sea," Earnest told reporters.

    "And we're going to continue to encourage all parties, big and small, to resolve their differences diplomatically and to not try to use their comparative size and strength to intimidate their neighbors."

    Chinese spokesman Hong said the South China Sea should not be a subject for discussion at the East Asia Summit.

    "The East Asia Summit and relevant meetings focus on regional cooperation and development," he said. "They are not an appropriate place for discussing the South China Sea issue."

    In an apparent show of U.S. resolve, Obama will take part in what the White House called "an event that showcases U.S. maritime security assistance to the Philippines". U.S. officials did not elaborate.

    But in September, Navy Admiral Harry Harris, head of the U.S. Pacific Command, visited the National Coast Watch Center, a facility at the Philippines coast guard headquarters that Washington has helped Manila build, to better monitor developments in the South China Sea.

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    We have a duty to stand against imperialism. I see no problem with this. I'd rather stop China and Russia before they go on a conquering spree than repeat the events of WW2 to the letter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    We have a duty to stand against imperialism. I see no problem with this. I'd rather stop China and Russia before they go on a conquering spree than repeat the events of WW2 to the letter.
    Yes, the country that has military deployments in 150 countries needs to do something about imperialism. Just think about that for a second.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    Yes, the country that has military deployments in 150 countries needs to do something about imperialism. Just think about that for a second.
    When countries ask the US to leave, it does so. Iraq, the Philippines in particular all did that in the last 20 years.

    More often, allies are concerned about the US leaving. The concern among European leaders is too many US forces in the Pacific and not enough in Europe, and vice verca. Why? Beyond just security reasons, and how much cheaper it is to have the US provide defense, Americans spend money, and bases are good for economic activity. So they're not exactly eager to see the US out.

    It's not imperialism if the US has an invitation and are repeatedly asked to stay...

    Besides, claiming a huge swath of the sea for ourselves and then building artificial islands to try and legitimize our claim? That's some next level bullshit imperialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    When countries ask the US to leave, it does so. Iraq, the Philippines in particular all did that in the last 20 years.

    More often, allies are concerned about the US leaving. The concern among European leaders is too many US forces in the Pacific and not enough in Europe, and vice verca. Why? Beyond just security reasons, and how much cheaper it is to have the US provide defense, Americans spend money, and bases are good for economic activity. So they're not exactly eager to see the US out.

    It's not imperialism if the US has an invitation and are repeatedly asked to stay...

    Besides, claiming a huge swath of the sea for ourselves and then building artificial islands to try and legitimize our claim? That's some next level bullshit imperialism.
    To my knowledge this is true in Thailand.

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