Colorado to vote on scrapping Obamacare, replacing with Single Payer Healthcare

[Sky High]

if this passes, it's decided. I'm dying in Colorado. well that was my plan to begin with but this is just another reason to move there.

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So the only thing Obama did in all his two terms (looks at Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan and the broken promises) is about to be reversed?

no, improved upon if anything.

[Raeph]

You're on the tail end of Gen X, bub.

Not really a point of pride or anything but three sources that say I'm an older (ancient) millennial.

http://thesocietypages.org/graphicso...-pew-research/
1981+

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millennials
Early 80s to 2000s

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregpetr...f-the-process/
1982-1993

Just saying.

[RaoBurning]

So, by this logic, sports cars are not as good as other cars because they cost more.

No, because sports cars aren't a basic human necessity so accessibility isn't a comparable metric.

[stabetha]

enjoy the increase of 191,350 unemployed I guess.

[Kujako]

Highly amusing considering the electorate is already paying for medical costs.

But they don't know that.

[Orbitus]

But they don't know that.

Nor do they know that Medicare is more "socialized" than the ACA. The ACA is capitalism if anything and Medicare is the socialism.

[Kujako]

Nor do they know that Medicare is more "socialized" than the ACA. The ACA is capitalism if anything and Medicare is the socialism.

Yes... kind of my point. Here's another of my favorites, and not just because of the misspelling of "off".

[Tyrianth]

enjoy the increase of 191,350 unemployed I guess.

You know health insurance is still in an industry even in countries with UHC?

[Powerogue]

Well if it goes well, hopefully other states follow suit. No way to tell except to wait and see how it goes.

[Drekker17]

if this passes, it's decided. I'm dying in Colorado. well that was my plan to begin with but this is just another reason to move there.

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This is why we need a wall, already invaded by Californian's enough. Colorado for Coloradans.

[Sky High]

This is why we need a wall, already invaded by Californian's enough. Colorado for Coloradans.

nah you got too much good weed.

[Fugus]

Perhaps but tell that to the legion of 20 and 30 something's who would rather pay a tax penalty than get insurance coverage. For all the charts and graphs saying that Americans pay 8-12k a year per person on medical expenses you have numerous people who don't pay a penny every year on anything more than an OTC bottle of Advil.

Your job is to convince those people, who have thus far been unwilling to share the cost of the rest of the populace, to take on their fair share of the cost of medical care for the country. To those people, who might spend $30 a year on medical care, telling them they may be looking at spending $1716 (national average income is 52k, tax in the article is 3.3%) a year on healthcare for other people will be a tough sell. It is already proving to be on with the subsidized coverage of the ACA.

Just wanted to point out one flaw in the post.

The national median income is only about $26,695 per year.
The median household income is estimated at $50,000 per year though due to 2 incomes.

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So the only thing Obama did in all his two terms (looks at Guantanamo, Iraq and Afghanistan and the broken promises) is about to be reversed?

Thanks Obama!

EDIT:
Can anyone mention what else Obama did?
The only other initiative I recall from him was the cash for clunkers scheme.

Cut the national deficit in half.

While he hasn't completely eliminated the deficit, cutting it in half while the party of NO was trying their best to sabotage him on any issue even at the expense of the American people.

So a bigger question is, during Obama's tenure as president, has the republican party worked harder at helping this nation or destroying it just to make Obama look bad while trying to blame him for it.

Not to say Obama doesn't deserve to catch shit for his part in the TPP and his attacks toward whistleblowers and their protections, but you never see the republican party ever actually holding him to task for the stuff he actually did, probably because they would have done it as well.

[Sir Andy]

Good for them. Pretty much anything is better than the botched abortion that is Obamacare.

[oplawlz]

It does, and there are possible counter measures - like requiring a certain down payment depending on age to become a resident or the reiquirement to have a private health ensurance if you moved to the state above a certain age or with a prior medical condition.

I'm pretty sure our freedom of movement laws would prevent this.
CHeck out Shapiro vs. Thompson

[Hooked]

Yes... kind of my point. Here's another of my favorites, and not just because of the misspelling of "off".

Yeah because no one has ever thought of putting a mole into a protest with a ridiculous sign.

[Fugus]

Good for them. Pretty much anything is better than the botched abortion that is Obamacare.

And as bad and botched as Obamacare is, it is still superior to what we had before which was the entire point.

It was a half measure which was an attempt at compromise which is why it was based on a 1990 republican healthcare plan and had half the committee who drafted it for Obama from the republican party.

What Colorado is going for is the full measure the ACA SHOULD have been.

[announced]

healthcare should just be pay as you go. if you choose to eat 3 pizzas every night and only live on fast food, everyone else shouldnt have to worry when you start having multiple heartattacks, that is your fault and only YOU should pay for it. on the other side, if you live a healthy life and eat right, great no bills at all.

[ovm33]

Cut the national deficit in half.

While he hasn't completely eliminated the deficit, cutting it in half while the party of NO was trying their best to sabotage him on any issue even at the expense of the American people.

Do you really believe this? Are you really that misinformed..?

He's added 8 trillion dollars to the national debt since he took office. That's TRILLION... That's a bigger deficit than every other president in history combined. Why do you think the U.S.'s credit rating was dropped? Seriously, wtf...

And the "party of no" part... that's how an adversarial system works... by definition. Republicans were elected, especially in 2014, specifically to stop crap like the ACA from happening. If the parties can't come to a compromise then it's one's to stops the other. It's just as much the democrats job to work with the republicans as vice versa. I can clearly recall Obama saying "I've got a pen" meaning he didn't intend to negotiate.

[timberx]

Do you really believe this? Are you really that misinformed..?

He's added 8 trillion dollars to the national debt since he took office. That's TRILLION... That's a bigger deficit than every other president in history combined. Why do you think the U.S.'s credit rating was dropped? Seriously, wtf...

And the "party of no" part... that's how an adversarial system works... by definition. Republicans were elected, especially in 2014, specifically to stop crap like the ACA from happening. If the parties can't come to a compromise then it's one's to stops the other. It's just as much the democrats job to work with the republicans as vice versa. I can clearly recall Obama saying "I've got a pen" meaning he didn't intend to negotiate.

You should probably look up the difference between deficit and debt.

[Masark]

Do you really believe this? Are you really that misinformed..?

He's added 8 trillion dollars to the national debt since he took office. That's TRILLION... That's a bigger deficit than every other president in history combined. Why do you think the U.S.'s credit rating was dropped?

1. Yes, and? His deficits are smaller than in the Bush administration.

2. It dropped because your Tea Party lunatics were showboating and threatening to cause the the USA to default, not because of the amount of the debt.