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    Seeing people are now throwing Egypt in here.

    "The members of the G20 are Argentina, Australia, Brazil, Canada, China, France, Germany, India, Indonesia, Italy, Japan, Republic of Korea, Mexico, Russia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa, Turkey, the United Kingdom, the United States and the European Union."

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    Quote Originally Posted by willemh View Post
    I think Russia entering the conflict and last weeks Paris attacks really helped to propellor things forward quite a bit. Seems most of the world is more determined then ever to get rid of them and funders will think twice before continueing to support ISIS.
    SA still exports their doctrine what is at the basis of this and we are almost all of us in Europe and the US included happy happy friends with them.

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    Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. All 3 two-faced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agraynel View Post
    Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. All 3 two-faced.
    Yep Turkey is the main country where the arms for ISIS are coming through. Turkey are bombing only the Kurds and havent touched ISIS at all.

    Rich 'businessmen' from Saudi and Qatar are the main financiers of ISIS.

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    Well, he states it's individuals, and also I don't think he ever said if it was deals or straight out contribution. A lot would pay shit ton of money for a hostage, and right now ISIS also got a lot of oil fields, which supply them with a ton of cash aswell. Then there is contribution, there is probably some fanatic IS supporter which also happens to earn alot of money and are funnelling... To be honest, this statement doesn't really come as a surprise, there is atleast 1 terror cell in every in europe, so yeah..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Agraynel View Post
    Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar. All 3 two-faced.
    Saudi Arabia is funding ISIS, the group that bombed there and is actively being hunted by them in the country?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kwelbo View Post
    Well, he states it's individuals, and also I don't think he ever said if it was deals or straight out contribution. A lot would pay shit ton of money for a hostage, and right now ISIS also got a lot of oil fields, which supply them with a ton of cash aswell. Then there is contribution, there is probably some fanatic IS supporter which also happens to earn alot of money and are funnelling... To be honest, this statement doesn't really come as a surprise, there is atleast 1 terror cell in every in europe, so yeah..
    Ru serious?

    The media will continue to push the narrative that ISIS get their funds from 'oil'. But this is total bullshit. The truth is that ISIS are being bombed to fukk and none of those oil fields are even operational!!!!

    ISIS are almost exclusively funded by individuals in Saudi, Qatar the UAE and other Sunni countries. And that funding runs into millions, theyre very rich.

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    Turkey is not "funding" ISIS, but is rather passive and dormant towards the idea of taking any action against them. ISIS is right at gate of the southern borders of Turkey and the Turkish government is treading very lightly not to provoke them, prioritizing the safety of its own citicens over Syrians in Syria(Which is normal). Just over a month ago 102 people blew up and died in Ankara by two ISIS fanatics just because Turkey went into a crossfire several days before. There are already 2 million Syrian refugees in Turkey and hell knows how many of them are ISIS agents. When the situation is this delicate, I believe any other country would take the same caution.

    In Middle East there are two factions, and those two factions are divided within their own:

    First; Assad(Syria), Hashemites(Jordan) and Saudis & Kuwait each want to "lead" the Arabic World, and for such a goal you have to destroy your opponents. Syrians are already eliminated, and in order to obtain that goal Saudi Arabia & Kuwait are feeding ISIS under the table to destabilize Syria and Iraq even more. They also play their cards with US since US is after the control of oil fields, and for that goal US will have to use Saudi support.

    On the other hand France and Russia also want control over the oil fields. Due to the Crimean embargo France doesn't import from Russia and Russia needs to sell oil no matter what. In this case Russia has to take control over the Syrian oil fields before any EU country reaches it. Putin want people to come to him for Syrian oil, not Assad or USA. Despite Russia, USA and France look on the same team, each one has its own agenda. Turkey acts on USA side, but is hesitant to attack because it is scared to shit for if another hundreds of its citizens might die in the slightest action taken. And this passiveness is actually and literally letting ISIS roam free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    ISIS is a Sunni group... that is why all Sunni nations are backing them. Saudi Arabia are the main funders of ISIS. Qatar and the UAE are also known funders. EGypt and Yemen are also mainly Sunni countries who probably also back ISIS in some way.
    none of these countries back isis, Isis attacked some of these countries, in some of these countries if your son leave the country and join isis, you will be kicked from your job or be imprisoned
    " In a Society like this table, a state of equilibrium, once one makes the first move, everyone must follow! In every era, this World has been operating by this napkin principle. And the one who ‘takes the napkin first’ must be someone who is respected by all. It’s not that anyone can fulfill this role… Those that are despotic or unworthy will be scorned. And those are the ‘losers"

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    Quote Originally Posted by habitsbreaker View Post
    none of these countries back isis, Isis attacked some of these countries, in some of these countries if your son leave the country and join isis, you will be kicked from your job or be imprisoned
    U sir are clueless.

    All of those countries are officially listed by the United Nations are the main funders of ISIS... how do u know better?

    ISIS is a Sunni terrorist organisation and their backers are rich Sunni 'businessmen'. Thats 100% factual information.

    Feel free to list attacks by ISIS on Suadi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, UAE or Yemen.

    Clue: the attack in Egypt was against Russians not Egyptians.

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    Saudi Arabia for sure. Take in mind that they're probably not funding them directly, more like giving them money through proxy companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snowraven View Post
    Saudi Arabia for sure. Take in mind that they're probably not funding them directly, more like giving them money through proxy companies.
    The only reason why Saudi Arabia sits on the negotiation table when talks happen over syria because they are the bkacer of the Islamist there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endemonadia View Post
    Clue: the attack in Egypt was against Russians not Egyptians.
    I think you are clueless if you believe the attack in Egypt wasn't an attack against whole Egypt. You are aware 70% of all Egyptian income comes from tourism right? How on earth do you believe that attacks on planes with tourists doesnt have a very negative effect on Egypt is completely beyond me. The loss of income due to cancelled flights and scared tourists all over the world is INSANE. Any attack against tourists in Egypt is a direct attack on the country itself, the country simply is 100% dependant on income from tourism, without it they're a third world country. Egypt has always done EVERYTHING they can do protect their tourists. There are a huge amount of special laws to protect tourists in Egypt (for example, they have a special police department that deals with tourists, normal police isn't even allowed to stop or arrest tourists during an excursion).

    You sir really are naive, if there is a single country in the world that is most dependant and thus cares most about it's tourism, its Egypt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willemh View Post
    You sir really are naive, if there is a single country in the world that is most dependant and thus cares most about it's tourism, its Egypt.
    But their population is so fundamentalistic islamic that they vote for them when they have elections unchecked so you are both right in a sense there is a disparity between the general population/wealthy businessman and the political elite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willemh View Post
    I think you are clueless if you believe the attack in Egypt wasn't an attack against whole Egypt. You are aware 70% of all Egyptian income comes from tourism right?
    And u think that terrorists are gonna think... "hey we better not kill those 230 Russians on that plane cos itll negatively effect the Tourism in the country we do the bombing"

    Yeah they so think like that LMAO!!!!

    U sir really need to learn more about terrorism because ur so way off base its pure comedy.

    Quote Originally Posted by willemh View Post
    You sir really are naive, if there is a single country in the world that is most dependant and thus cares most about it's tourism, its Egypt.
    U think im naive to terrorism?

    How many bombings have u been close to?

    Well ive been close to TWO. Both by the IRA in London... yes ive grown up with nasty motherfukcers bombing my city for decades.

    Did we ban all Irish from entering the UK?

    Did we throw out all the Irsh already living here?

    Did we bomb th shit out of Irish cities?

    Ofc not, we worked that shit out logically and inclusively.. a job well done for level-headed ambassadorship. A victory for common sense and humanity.

    And fyi the IRA was a registered charity in the USA and u guys gave those fukkers MILLIONS of dollars. This to me is yet another example of how totally fukking clueless Americans are on understanding the 'rest of the world'. U love having enemies and all u wanna do is kill kill kill.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Clearly, the U.S. is it's biggest backer.

    *tinfoil*
    Well they kinda are since the US supplied ISIS with their entire fleet of Toyota trucks and some small armaments. Oops, those were suppose to Syrian rebels.

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