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    Quote Originally Posted by dlhak View Post
    Violence is a product of individual miseducation, if someone beats a person who decided to convert to another religion it's not because his religion (primarily) told him so, it's because he is a violent jerk. Also, all religions punish those who leave them. Yes there are violent uneducated Muslim jerks, but I am an educated one, and my parents educated me in a way to not give a shit if someone decided to worship a bunny, a dick or Chubaka ... mis-education is the problem, not the religion.
    There is a thing we do where we project our own attitudes towards religion onto others. So if we're not dictated by religion, or don't think it could actually give mandate to cause harm, we believe other people are the same way and simply use it as an excuse. The west does this toward all religious conflicts and groups the world over. Religion doesn't have the same hold on us, so we don't think it has that kind of hold on anyone.

    I think that's a pretty big mistake, a bias we should try to look past. For a lot of people religion IS true, it's not just a comfort or cultural practice, or something vaguely "spiritual". For a lot of people it does dictate behavior, it does give mandate to harm, it does demand and instill certain values.

    The practice of constantly shifting any causation away from religion is grounded in our own bias. It's certainly appropriate in many cases, but it's not a rule that you can blindly apply to everything because the idea that religion could be bad makes you uncomfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reffan View Post
    Tell me how I was punished for leaving christianity? Because I don't know.
    You miss all those lovely sermons, the horror!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gargarr View Post
    Seems like they don't count "wars". Meaning Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and such. Only terrorist acts caused by different organizations.

    Anyway, no matter how you look at it,Muslims are responsible for the vast majority of the world's violence.
    Ah ok that makes sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlhak View Post
    Violence is a product of individual miseducation, if someone beats a person who decided to convert to another religion it's not because his religion (primarily) told him so, it's because he is a violent jerk. Also, all religions punish those who leave them. Yes there are violent uneducated Muslim jerks, but I am an educated one, and my parents educated me in a way to not give a shit if someone decided to worship a bunny, a dick or Chubaka ... mis-education is the problem, not the religion.
    ... So naive.

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    Try jelling praise jesus and allah al akbar in a closed theater the reason
    the reaction is different is not racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    Try jelling praise jesus and allah al akbar in a closed theater the reason
    the reaction is different is not racism.
    You're right, it's not. But it shouldn't be that way and it's sad.
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    Yeah very shocking, it's almost like the penalty for apostasy in islam is death...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borgia View Post
    Yeah very shocking, it's almost like the penalty for apostasy in islam is death...
    It's not really practiced in most low to mid modern Islamic countries. But it is unfortunately stated to be done. The only way I can even rationalize it is around those olden times there were foreign spies who lied about being Muslim and intended to cause harm. A couple of wars even started soon after between different sects of Islam mostly due to such dissenters. But yeah no still doesn't justify it whatsoever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gargarr View Post
    Seems like they don't count "wars". Meaning Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan and such. Only terrorist acts caused by different organizations.

    Anyway, no matter how you look at it,Muslims are responsible for the vast majority of the world's violence.
    What? are you trolling? NO ONE out violence's america. No one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dd614 View Post
    Some parts of Britain, Sweden, France, Germany, etc are Islamic republics.
    No. No they are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dkwhyevernot View Post
    No. No they are not.
    Yeah, they are not exactly republics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    What? are you trolling? NO ONE out violence's america. No one.
    Sure. Syria is much more peaceful or Iraq. Or Afghanistan, or Nigeria. And one can not argue that North Korea is very peaceful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    What? are you trolling? NO ONE out violence's america. No one.
    I did not know the us have killed tens of thousands of innocent people this year, commiting mass executions on children, selling children as sex slaves, commiting mass genocides etc etc the list is very long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbamboozal View Post
    What? are you trolling? NO ONE out violence's america. No one.
    You must not be aware of the world at large.

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