Discussion: Add 'Heroic Races'?

[RoutinelyWorgen]

So an idea popped up in my mind, that idea being the concept of a "heroic race" which could for example have 2 racial abilities (similar to the worgen whom actually has 3, but more practical) or 1 that's super flashy. Maybe you guys could come up with better ideas on what a heroic race would be like but they'd essentially be a race that starts off from a higher lvl, like the heroic classes DK and DH.

How would you unlock it and what would separate it from other races gameplay-wise?

[XDurionX]

So you want to make racebalancing even worse and "heroic classes" mandatory if you want to compete? Great idea.

[RedGamer030]

Humans are the "Heroic Race" - Every Man for Himself is king in PvP.

[RoutinelyWorgen]

So you want to make racebalancing even worse and "heroic classes" mandatory if you want to compete? Great idea.

I'm not saying that the race would be massively OP.
I don't exactly see how classes are being dramatically imbalanced with the presence of DKs and soon DHs as well, so having a race that probably doesn't even have access to either of those classes and the only thing going for it is a shorter path to max lvl.

[Auxora]

Humans are the "Heroic Race" - Every Man for Himself is king in PvP.

The recent change to Humans getting +2% to all secondary stats is looking pretty strong too.

[Deleted]

And they should cost you an additional 3 €/$/yourregionalequivelant per month per Char!
Nothing wrong with this system.

[Queen of Hamsters]

So you want to make racebalancing even worse and "heroic classes" mandatory if you want to compete? Great idea.

Yeah that.

Wouldn't back this idea at all.

[RoutinelyWorgen]

Let's say for example if Drakonids were a hero race, though I haven't seen them spew fire before let's just imagine that their racial ability was breathe fire.
However, when activating it, the Drakonid would be stuck in a static position unable to direct the damage cone in any other direction and have a significant cooldown on it.

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So you want to make racebalancing even worse and "heroic classes" mandatory if you want to compete? Great idea.

Yeah that.

Wouldn't back this idea at all.

I'm not saying that the race would be massively OP.
I don't exactly see how classes are being dramatically imbalanced with the presence of DKs and soon DHs as well, so having a race that probably doesn't even have access to either of those classes and the only thing going for it is a shorter path to max lvl.

Tell me in what way you disagree with this if you do instead of just throwing out the assumption it will imbalance everything like players did when the Monk was announced.

[Deleted]

Heroic classes aren't designed to have an edge over others. They just start at higher levels and have an epic starting experience. Why should "heroic" races have an advantage over regular races?

[RoutinelyWorgen]

Heroic classes aren't designed to have an edge over others. They just start at higher levels and have an epic starting experience. Why should "heroic" races have an advantage over regular races?

Exactly my point. Of course you'd have to level a character or two significantly to unlock it, which would prevent 'noobs' from gaining the privilege of skipping the experience of leveling up from 1 to 40-100.

[Queen of Hamsters]

Heroic classes aren't designed to have an edge over others. They just start at higher levels and have an epic starting experience. Why should "heroic" races have an advantage over regular races?

Exactly.

Rather have races be as much of a personal choice as possible.

[Segus1992]

As was already mentioned, Human is the obvious "heroic race" because they're clearly intended to be the kings of PvP.

Beyond that, dumbest suggestion in a long time.

[Deleted]

And they should cost you an additional 3 €/$/yourregionalequivelant per month per Char!
Nothing wrong with this system.

Don't give them ideas....

[Deleted]

I'm curious, why do you put 'Discussion' in the topic? I thought every thread in here is supposed to be a discussion. What's special about this particular thread that all the threads without 'Discussion' in the topic don't have?

[Darththeo]

I like the idea of unlockable races.

For example, if this feature was in MoP, if you played a Horde character through Jade Forest, you would unlock Hozen for the Horde on your account. If you beat it as alliance you unlock Jinyu as a playable race. The races start in a phased version of the Jade Forest.

[Deleted]

The recent change to Humans getting +2% to all secondary stats is looking pretty strong too.

Humans will not get a flat +2% to secondary stats. They will get +2% rating. E.g. if you have 20% crit, the human racial will add 20%*0.02 = 0.4% crit for a total of 20.4% and not 22%.

More on topic: races should be cosmetic only, IMHO. We should never "have" to pick a race for performance reasons.

[Delaios]

I'd like it if it had balanced racials. It would mainly be for the increased starting level. Leveling 1-60 is just the worst.

[Deleted]

I'm not saying that the race would be massively OP.
I don't exactly see how classes are being dramatically imbalanced with the presence of DKs and soon DHs as well, so having a race that probably doesn't even have access to either of those classes and the only thing going for it is a shorter path to max lvl.

well you proposed 2 racials so I assumed it was combat racials

[Darththeo]

I'd like it if it had balanced racials. It would mainly be for the increased starting level. Leveling 1-60 is just the worst.

Nope, 1 to 60 is awesome ... 60 to 70 is the worst because Outland sucks.

[Segus1992]

Humans will not get a flat +2% to secondary stats. They will get +2% rating. E.g. if you have 20% crit, the human racial will add 20%*0.02 = 0.4% crit for a total of 20.4% and not 22%.

More on topic: races should be cosmetic only, IMHO. We should never "have" to pick a race for performance reasons.

In other words, literally all you need is 50% total secondary stats to be equal to all other races. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

Gee, I wonder if anyone has more than +50% secondary stats. Let's also not forget that it makes secondary stat trinkets and Bloodlust 2% better as well. Yes, it's the best beyond any reasonable doubt.