Genn Greymane : The new Garrosh?

[Villager720]

Hey, an Alliance hero is getting the spotlight! *Talador cinematic* never mind!

Hey, an Alliance hero is getting the spotlight! *Sylvanas plot armor* never mind!

Btw, Genn has every right to kill Sylvanas on sight no matter what. She destroyed his nation and his SON.

The son got himself killed. She wasn't actively targeting him. And Liam was a drunk anyways.
(I'll admit I kept that terse and condemning to enrage the Gilnean nationalists present in this thread.)

[Granilith]

The son got himself killed. She wasn't actively targeting him. And Liam was a drunk anyways.

She was trying to kill Genn, sorry, does that make it better?

Liam led the resistance against Sylvanas and sacrificed himself for his dad, and you brush that aside by referring to him being a drunk? That's... an interesting argument.

[Ogren]

The son got himself killed. She wasn't actively targeting him. And Liam was a drunk anyways.

Point remains, he wouldn't have died if Gilneas had never been invaded.

Also Liam actually was a fairly respectable character in his own right.

(I'll admit I kept that terse and condemning to enrage the Gilnean nationalists present in this thread.)

Well even that's sort of weird of you, since Liam along with quite a few other Gilneans didn't agree with Genn's policies. (And that's why, you guess it, the Northgate Rebellion happened.)

[Myta]

People seem to recoil whenever Blizzard tries to remind players that the Alliance and Horde will never see eye to eye.

People may not like this comparison, but people like to think US is good and Russia is evil and will refuse to work with Russia for the greater good of the world because of that bad blood. Grudges make people do dumb things sometimes, and this isn't bad writing but actually incredibly realistic.

[ravenmoon]

sylvannas is the bigger hero right?

anyway, this is very much out of context, I wouldn't draw any conclusions.

[yetgdhfgh]

Oh Genn you just couldnt let bygones be bygones could you? LOL

[Shampro]

These threads are going to be so full of salt. Delicious.

[Deleted]

Sylvanas is meh character for everyone who is not fapping to undead. If we can't get rid of thrall, please, get rid of sylvanas at least!

[Hallidyne]

Hope Genn kills Sylvanas. Anything to be done with that horrid, peddler of death. She deserves nothing but a swift trip to the void, after all the crap she's pulled against both the alliance AND the horde.

Doubt they'll kill her off. She just got a brand new model, same as Genn. I'd love to see her die though too, and this coming from a predominantly horde player.

I don't believe The Blightcaller's model has been really touched up much at all since vanilla. He may just die.

[Ogren]

New models don't ensure the survival of characters, otherwise AU Velen wouldn't have gotten axed by the end of Shadowmoon Valley.

Note: This goes for both Genn and Sylvanas.

[Maxilian]

You have to understand that Sylvannas is the equivalent of Hitler to Genn. She is perhaps the most terrible, despised evil person he can imagine and she took from him almost everything. How many jews would work with Hitler suddenly because a more dangerous enemy presented itself and he decided to call a truce? Sure it could happen, but how easily exactly?

Genn is faaaaaaaaar from Hellscream. Never forget she invaded his kingdom, slaughtered his people, attempted to forcefully resurrect them as undead soldiers for her military and killed his son directly in front of him and effectively nuked the entire area with the blight making it uninhabitable. Most people by today's standards at least would call that crimes against humanity. So what if she is turning a new leaf, she still needs to face judgement for her past. This does not make Genn a selfish monster anyway like Garrosh. This makes Genn "human" and more relatable.

Edit: While the burning legion invasion is not the time or place for said judgement, its quite easy to understand why he and many other worgen would want to extract it then with no regrets.

Having in mind that the Forsaken attack to Gilneas was forced by Garrosh but its totally true what you say, its what makes more sense (even more when you have in mind, that most gilnean people, took the curse even when they feared/hated it because of the forsaken

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She was trying to kill Genn, sorry, does that make it better?

Liam led the resistance against Sylvanas and sacrificed himself for his dad, and you brush that aside by referring to him being a drunk? That's... an interesting argument.

That's true, Genn have all the reasons to kill Sylvanas, but that's war, you can't blame Sylvanas for doing what she did.

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New models don't ensure the survival of characters, otherwise AU Velen wouldn't have gotten axed by the end of Shadowmoon Valley.

Note: This goes for both Genn and Sylvanas.

I expect Sylvanas to die, at least one more time (she can come back with her Valkyrs)

[Deleted]

''Genn will have an important role in the expansion!''
He dies in a scenario.

GG Blizz. Please lose more subs for false advertising and your utter stupidity at hiding your biases.

[yetgdhfgh]

''Genn will have an important role in the expansion!''
He dies in a scenario.

GG Blizz. Please lose more subs for false advertising and your utter stupidity at hiding your biases.

TBF it only says we battle him not kill him so its perfectly likely that he doesnt die just run off all in a huff.

Seeing how these scenarios are for horde and ally how is my worgen alt gonna feel when i have to do battle with Genn?

Blizz you got sum splainin to do!

[PhilUK]

Crazy enough Sylvanas could have brought his son back and tortures his soul or corpse. Let alone she deployed the plague to melt even the bones of the gilneas nation even to the best of garrosh. Honestly shes a false queen that controls a nation of undead that have entirely forgotten that they are free of the Lich King's control. They have no recollection of the lordaeron identity they have lost. They have "Calia Menethil" as the rightful queen of their nation or did they just entirely forget who they was for revenge that is now complete... Isn't there a few who just see undead as an extension of life? A chance to rebuild what was lost or find a cure. Its as if the entire population just went entirely derp. Sadly this couldn't happen within the scope of WoW because the undead are apart of the horde now and it would be insane to cause such a transition due to the hatred of the player base. Though it would be the best way to expand the story past WoW or a Warcraft 4.

Now with that out the way no one knows the story or how this will spark off in the first place, for all we know its legion infiltration attempting to divide and conquer.

[Maxilian]

''Genn will have an important role in the expansion!''
He dies in a scenario.

GG Blizz. Please lose more subs for false advertising and your utter stupidity at hiding your biases.

Its like saying the Worgen killed Sylvanas cause they had a mission in their starting story line that says "Battle Sylvanas"

[Deleted]

TBF it only says we battle him not kill him so its perfectly likely that he doesnt die just run off all in a huff.

Seeing how these scenarios are for horde and ally how is my worgen alt gonna feel when i have to do battle with Genn?

Blizz you got sum splainin to do!

He's still a boss in an encounter, and of fucking course he attacks Sylvanas first. Sylvanas puts genocide aside for a day, and the big bad wolf dares to attack her. I like Sylvanas but her plot armor is getting ridiculous.

It's like in SC2 where Mengsk is portrayed as a baby eater for trying to kill murderous Kerrigan. And we're supposed to empathize with her... Give me a break.

[Florena]

He's still a boss in an encounter, and of fucking course he attacks Sylvanas first. Sylvanas puts genocide aside for a day, and the big bad wolf dares to attack her. I like Sylvanas but her plot armor is getting ridiculous.

It's like in SC2 where Mengsk is portrayed as a baby eater for trying to kill murderous Kerrigan. And we're supposed to empathize with her... Give me a break.

To be fair he was also an all around scum bag and corrupt ruler on top of that.

[Maxilian]

Crazy enough Sylvanas could have brought his son back and tortures his soul or corpse.

Genn Greymane's son corpse was cremated

Let alone she deployed the plague to melt even the bones of the gilneas nation even to the best of garrosh.

3 things:
*Garrosh forced the Forsaken into that war
*The Worgen cannot be resurrected by the forsaken
*The forsaken were using a weak version of the plague (because of Garrosh order) reason why the Worgen got a chance to fight back (after that Sylvanas order to use the perfected plague)

Honestly shes a false queen that controls a nation of undead that have entirely forgotten that they are free of the Lich King's control.

A false Queen that was accepted and revered by their people on their own will

They have no recollection of the lordaeron identity they have lost. They have "Calia Menethil" as the rightful queen of their nation or did they just entirely forget who they was for revenge that is now complete...

Righful Queen of what? not like the she have done anything for them, not like Sylvanas...

Isn't there a few who just see undead as an extension of life? A chance to rebuild what was lost or find a cure. Its as if the entire population just went entirely derp.

There are some that are trapped on who they once were (seen in many quest for the undead) others that have totally accepted it, to the point that they don't care about their status, and yes... they are some that are looking for a cure (they are working with the taurens, but that's not really what they are looking for)

Sadly this couldn't happen within the scope of WoW because the undead are apart of the horde now and it would be insane to cause such a transition due to the hatred of the player base. Though it would be the best way to expand the story past WoW or a Warcraft 4.

Is true there is many that can't be done in the story of wow, but you're asking for something that its not happening with the forsakens...

[anaxie]

Crazy enough Sylvanas could have brought his son back and tortures his soil or corpse. Let alone she deployed the plague to melt even the bones of the gilneas nation even to the best of garrosh. Honestly shes a false queen that controls a nation of undead that have entirely forgotten that they are free of the Lich King's control. They have no recollection of the lordaeron identity they have lost. They have "Calia Menethil" as the rightful queen of their nation or did they just entirely forget who they was for revenge that is now complete... Isn't there a few who just see undead as an extension of life? A chance to rebuild what was lost or find a cure. Its as if the entire population just went entirely derp. Sadly this couldn't happen within the scope of WoW because the undead are apart of the horde now and it would be insane to cause such a transition due to the hatred of the player base. Though it would be the best way to expand the story past WoW or a Warcraft 4.

Now with that out the way no one knows the story or how this will spark off in the first place, for all we know its legion infiltration attempting to divide and conquer.

Cali menethil is nothing the forsaken took the capital from the arthas then the legion. The only right she has is to be irrelevant permanently.

[Aquamonkey]

Genn was the original Garrosh.