1. #6781
    Quote Originally Posted by Hellshout View Post
    And another make it or break it legendary. Might be proven to be good in the end and guess what, you have to worship the RNG gods again in order to have it. Why fix the fucking spec, when you can just add another legendary that might(AGAIN) increase the distance between those that have it and those that don't...




    Imho, it will fill the spot between full AOE and full ST bosses, like those that spawn an add or 2 between phases, but where you'd need your good ST damage for burst phases or sustained with NB instead of SD.
    More excited to get it for bear/cat tho.
    At least this time most long time balance players should have nearly every legendary or all of them which makes getting it quickly very likely. Doesn't help new balance droids but, it's certainly not as bad as launch.
    Quote Originally Posted by Unmerciful Conker View Post
    What?! They said soon? Well you dont hear that everyday, I dont know about you guys but that has put my mind at total rest.

  2. #6782
    I need some guidance if possible.
    Was looking at logs Dan HC and I saw #2 Idk about his other leggos, but I have only ED and IFE to play with considering most top parsers use OI or LatC.
    Was wondering a few things:
    1) he did only 7 SFalls, granted on eyes and the first adds, so wouldn't NB be a better suiter for that playstyle? I did some rough math that may or may not be wrong and not using SFall at all got me a little more damage done. Also in my group small eyes die pretty fast.
    2) how in Heaven's name his avg Surge does 1.5 mil dmg? Mine do @900k and some other 99% guys do 1.1-1.2 mil dmg/surge. (maybe Inc huge spikes and avg is higher?)

    off topic rant:

    I tried Bota N with KJ instead of ED due to not using Surge almost at all and I did 60k less dps than on HC -.-
    I'll keep using ED, but I want to ask if it's more viable to not spam SFall on top of each other and do a Surge from time to time, but always keep Stellar up so that LS get's a bonus dmg?

    Thanks for the help.

  3. #6783
    Top heroic logs are tainted, he has 20k more intellect than mythic geared raiders

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    The Emerald Dreamcatcher: Starsurge reduces the Astral Power cost of your Starsurges by 7 for 35 for 5 sec. Stacks up to 2 times.
    Oh look at that, Balance nerfs.

  5. #6785
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Oh look at that, Balance nerfs.
    Hey we're in such a good spot in Legion if discord is to be believed. We are doing too well in logs so we need some nerfs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyanion View Post
    Hey we're in such a good spot in Legion if discord is to be believed. We are doing too well in logs so we need some nerfs.
    And how is that supposed to eb possible when ther has been no buffs?

  7. #6787
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    And how is that supposed to eb possible when ther has been no buffs?
    I was mostly being sarcastic. I don't understand the nerf either. I really hope there are some buffs coming up before the patch hits...because good lord it looks bad.

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    What happens if I begin casting Full moon and the target moves?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerwilko View Post
    What happens if I begin casting Full moon and the target moves?
    You cast the spell?

    You need to stay still, nit the target

  10. #6790
    The primary target always gets hit for full damage unless the spell cancels because it ran out of range or LoS.

  11. #6791
    Quote Originally Posted by rogerwilko View Post
    What happens if I begin casting Full moon and the target moves?
    Despite where the moon falls, the target always gets hit. I'm not sure about the split AoE portion (whether it's located at the time of finishing the cast or the moon actually hitting; no idea), but I've never "missed" the target in that sense.
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  12. #6792
    Has anyone crunched the numbers on trinkets? I feel like we're going to be using Whispers/Metronome/a TF statstick along with Sentinel on ST and Charm on AoE.
    Whaleshark /spits on your science.

  13. #6793
    Quote Originally Posted by Irefusetodie View Post
    Has anyone crunched the numbers on trinkets? I feel like we're going to be using Whispers/Metronome/a TF statstick along with Sentinel on ST and Charm on AoE.
    No number crunching yet, but from PTR tests the Owl trinket is doing ~10% DPS on ST, so we will most likely run Whispers/Owl for ST and Whispers/something for AoE. Probably Owl.
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  14. #6794
    Quote Originally Posted by Slippykins View Post
    No number crunching yet, but from PTR tests the Owl trinket is doing ~10% DPS on ST, so we will most likely run Whispers/Owl for ST and Whispers/something for AoE. Probably Owl.
    Would that be due to the trinket doing arcane damage so CI buffs it?

  15. #6795
    Quote Originally Posted by Slippykins View Post
    No number crunching yet, but from PTR tests the Owl trinket is doing ~10% DPS on ST, so we will most likely run Whispers/Owl for ST and Whispers/something for AoE. Probably Owl.
    Whispers is good enough to be used over trinkets with 30-45 iLvls ahead of it? Oh fun. That'll probs get nerfed since Draught's already been fucked for Warriors.
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  16. #6796
    Quote Originally Posted by Polarthief View Post
    Whispers is good enough to be used over trinkets with 30-45 iLvls ahead of it? Oh fun. That'll probs get nerfed since Draught's already been fucked for Warriors.
    it's about equal to ~30 ilvl higher stat stick in mythic ToS gear. Doubt it's enought to warant a nerf, DoS and Convergence were (in convergence case, is) straight up threatening to be BiS in the Argus raid.

  17. #6797
    Eh, i'm more surprised they haven't done it yet, since it scales with your gear.

  18. #6798
    The notion of having to run Gul'Dan over and over again for Whispers is pretty annoying. At least I'm sitting on 925 one hopefully that will last me sometime.

  19. #6799
    From discussions with some hunters and other boomkins, it looks like the PPM of the Owl trinket is above what's stated. People are getting around 20-30 procs per use, when the average should be 7-8.

    e: could just be haste scaling.
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  20. #6800
    im actually curious if with the new ring together with OI or IFE will pull ahead on ST since SS and SF are pretty close together dmg wise.
    hope they rework FoE at some point, so we can choose between a couple of different builds.

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