LGBT Rights in Africa ~ Opinions

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Nope, I don't "bitch" about ethnicity at all. You obviously can't read. I don't care about peoples ethnicity, I care about the culture on the other hand, because culture shapes behaviour, ethnicity doesn't.

Ah-huh, sure. I call a spade a spade love

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Maybe some of those bad places in Africa will strike Oil soon~

I hear Wakanda has a stockpile of Vibranium, oh wait.....

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Ah-huh, sure. I call a spade a spade love

No, you just engage in personal attacks based on your own stupid ideas on what a person likes or dislikes, rather than what actually is. You never have any good arguments, most of what you do is personal attacks when people disagree with you.

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No, you just engage in personal attacks based on your own stupid ideas on what a person likes or dislikes, rather than what actually is.

Pot. Kettle. Black

[Shurkuris]

You can't pull the shit your allowed to do in America in Africa or most parts of the world. Stop projecting your other-wordly views that the world is this safe democratic land pacified by US movies.

[Kraenen]

Pot. Kettle. Black

Poop. Pee. Face.

[BreakerOfWills]

Everyone here arguing for natural development of acceptance of LGBT" is missing 2 major points.

The current attitudes against LGBT were wholly introduced by colonizers, who obliterated much of Africa's culture then left, and when I say left I really mean kept stealing wealth but took down the flags.

The most heinous anti gay stuff, say Uganda, is as a direct result of the most vicious hateful anti LGBT people being frustrated with the liberal attitudes of the countries where they live and turning to Africa to peddle their particular horrific brand of Christianity.

Africa's a continent, not a country, and there are places in it that range from modern metropolis to war torn hellhole, but the attitude that they somehow did it to themselves, that the countries that actively participated in the destruction of the country are in no way at fault is some real disgusting shit.

Look no further than the religious institutions to find the source of some of the most anti civilization propaganda.
Catholic Church says condoms don't work, Missionaries preach that LGBT people are demons that are destroying the country, it's like a Westboro Baptist Church paradise, where poverty and lack of stability in many countries allow these disgusting people to impose their own personal hatred on the psyche of a country.

[Felya]

I hear Wakanda has a stockpile of Vibranium, oh wait.....

Now that their president T'Challa has the infinity gauntlet, it's going to take a lot of power to get to that vibranium.

[Gheld]

At present most of Africa (with the notable exception being South Africa) presents some of the worst LGTB Rights in the world. In several countries homosexual men and women face heavy criminal penalties dependent on country. From as little to five years to execution. While I'm not implying everyone should be obligated socially to accept those of bisexual, homosexual and transsexual status, but can we as the West and East stand to criticize Russia when you habe Northern Nigerians men possibly being executed for their sexual orientation?

I'm no way saying that we should "save" the entire continent of Africa, but faster developing African nations like those of Ghana, Kenya and Nigeria imo could be potentially pressured into allowing more libertarian values for it's citizens.

There are plenty of human rights watchdog groups operating in Africa. There's just less media coverage in Africa in general because the "safe spaces" (i.e. embassies and what not) are fewer and far-er between for journalists to run and seek shelter if they piss local officials off.

[Felya]

There are plenty of human rights watchdog groups operating in Africa. There's just less media coverage in Africa in general because the "safe spaces" (i.e. embassies and what not) are fewer and far-er between for journalists to run and seek shelter if they piss local officials off.

Konie 2012!

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We shouldn't mess with their cultures imho. They have to solve this problems on their own.

A big part of the LGBT hat in africa is because of an american campaign. There are some fat reps traveling and telling everybody to hate gay people.

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Send the feminazis down there, see how fast they turn tail and come back to complain about the "patriarchy" in the west

[Underverse]

Yes it is barbaric. Yes we should be criticizing them. Why wouldn't we? They are objectively incorrect on this subject. Only a relativist would shake their head and justify these executions by culture.

[Techno-Druid]

Before LGBT rights can even start to flourish the society needs to go through a cultural shift.

The US/EU went through its own shift in the 60's and 70's. The Sexual/Hippie/New Age revolution. After Africa, the Middle East, etc, go through something similar, gay rights, women's liberation, etc, will follow.

China is not exactly "gay friendly" either, though gay people are not executed, and homosexualty was decriminalized:



Russia is actually going backwards; but that is no surprise with Putin in charge.

I see your point.

[Polyxo]

A lot of blame goes to American evangelism.

[Underverse]

THe question is, what caused the sexual revolution in the Western world? Can we instigate it in other places of the world? Do we have any reason to believe that it will unavoidably occur there at some point?

I would say that it's extremely likely to occur at some point, because it's a part of human nature that's really only resisted by pervasive anti-homosexual cultural influences. These influences break down over time with education, communication, and exposure to the idea. So as long as these countries are investing in these aspects of society, they are indirectly bringing their culture closer to acceptance.

Of course, I don't see anything wrong with accelerating the process, probably via communication/exposure.

[tehealadin]

Should be good, there is a lack of white cis men there, who are the people least receptive to LGBT rights and most opposed to equality. The only problem is, there might be residual white cis maleness still lingering from the post colonial age that might dupe Africans into being less receptive than they naturally would be.

[Alvito]

Basic and human rights across the world could be much better then they are, no country is exempt from that. As far as LGBT rights, most countries just turned the page on that or in the process of it now. So lets not act like the ones that haven't are stuck in the stone ages. Fix the issues where you live it will ripple outwards.