Ohio Planned Parenthood Disposes of Fetuses in Landfills

[Rhine101]

Us as a society, because that's unacceptable, legally and moral. That's if we want to progress and not regress into Middle Ages where moms aborted fetuses on the street, like no big deal. You would think with dozen of contraceptives methods today and a lot of "porn" techniques, men would be insane to cum inside the vagina if they didn't want a kid and the women would stop them from doing it it's "that time of month".

You have posters here telling a person to cum in his girl and to just trust she will stay on her birth control, so I wouldn't be shocked that people are still having unwanted kids.

Society will go on. Wouldn't it be a good idea for the people too stupid to keep from having unwanted kids to not reproduce? I think the world would be a better place if they all died out or became infertile due to too many abortions.

And back alley abortions happen when you ban it. So that's another argument for pro choice... Just sayin.

Remember, im pro life. If I can see the flaws in your argument then that is a bad sign. What do we do with kids who's parents don't want them? And don't give me the abstinence talk. People have proven to be weak willed animals and they will still pop kids out like mad.

Solution? Let them kill of their unborn by the thousands. Who gives a shit. Not our business. If you don't like it, never fuck a pro choice female. Problem solved. You kids will be saved and thank you for it. Meanwhile the others will abort all they want and pay 100,000 on medical help when they try and have a kid at age 60. Or they will adopt which is good.

I don't get it man. It's like getting mad at your enemy for culling their numbers. Let them do it. And use their dead kids for stem cell research so you can cure you live kids of ailments later. It's win win.

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Beause the more they do it, abortions, the more it trivalizes it. And it spreads cross-social boundries, not only poor women do it. And it doesn't fix the issue. If you need abortions, I'm sorry but your sexual protection sucks. I would rather give that money into free condoms, procedures to reduce the chance of getting pregnant. I do home some day in the near future we would remove the fertility of men and females from birth and only trigger it when they really do want to have a kid.

[Rhine101]

Beause the more they do it, abortions, the more it trivalizes it. And it spreads cross-social boundries, not only poor women do it. And it doesn't fix the issue. If you need abortions, I'm sorry but your sexual protection sucks.

What? You are saying that the more people abort then suddenly you or I will change our tune and be down with it ?

Sorry but no.

In the army we had a saying. STAY IN YOUR LANE.

Don't worry who is killing their kids. Worry about your own. The only people that have a leg to stand on are people who are willing to adopt any unwanted kids. Cause if you are not then all you do is drag us all into taking care of kids via taxes cause their parents sure as fuck won't be.

You want to add a new law to the books that bans abortion but creates an orphan tax to take care of unwanted kids? I don't

[Elegiac]

Yet we still have women "somehow" ending up pregnant w/o them wanting it.

For a variety of reasons including but not limited to; sex education in the US sucking, contraceptive failure, or simply just a mistake.

And no, the 'welfare' to raise a kid doesn't remotely compensate for the damage an unwanted child can cause financially and emotionally.

I would rather have american women giving birth to kids, not aborting them, rather than get illegal immigrants in to boost the population. At least with the baby we know they will be raised in the american way.

Jingoist rubbish if I've ever heard it.

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Beause the more they do it, abortions, the more it trivalizes it.

I've seen no evidence to suggest that any woman takes abortion particularly trivially.

[Seditian]

I would rather have american women giving birth to kids, not aborting them, rather than get illegal immigrants in to boost the population. At least with the baby we know they will be raised in the american way.

"American way" hahaha. What's that supposed to be, exactly? That stupid comment combined with this, makes it even better:

[Rhine101]

"American way" hahaha. What's that supposed to be, exactly? That stupid comment combined with this, makes it even better:

Know what's funny about that?

Any kid born in America is American ...

[spinner981]

That is my question as well. I'm not exactly sure what the proposed alternative is here.

Well, I think they would be too late for the preferred alternative.

[Elegiac]

Well, I think they would be too late for the preferred alternative.

Government small enough to fit into a uterus, right?

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Know what's funny about that?

Any kid born in America is American ...

Kids raised in a minority community in US is not american. They keep to their own culture, language and customs. That's not assimilation that's segregation by choice. And they do more harm to themselfs then any racists person could when they force their kids to segregate to "follow their own culture" rathen the integrate to the american population.

A mexican kid raised in a mexican communit that speaks mainly spanish is not an american kid but rather a mexican kid living on the other side of the border. He stands very little chance to integrate into english, majority, America because their parents choose to segregate him at birth!

[Elegiac]

Kids raised in a minority community in US is not american.

They are by definition American.

A mexican kid raised in a mexican communit that speaks mainly spanish is not an american kid but rather a mexican kid living on the other side of the border. He stands very little chance to integrate into english, majority, America because their parents choose to segregate him at birth!

This actually isn't how it works. Hispanics integrate quite well into the United States because American culture itself is founded in fairly diverse roots.

[spinner981]

Government small enough to fit into a uterus, right?

Not sure what you're getting at.

[Elegiac]

Not sure what you're getting at.

It's hypocritical to support small government and be pro-life.

[spinner981]

It's hypocritical to support small government and be pro-life.

How does that work out? I'm sure you'll explain it to me.

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They are by definition American.



This actually isn't how it works. Hispanics integrate quite well into the United States because American culture itself is founded in fairly diverse roots.

Yeah no. Unless you are an immigrant that don't want to read up your history. Then you can keep telling yourself your spanish language is a plus and that minority segrageted communities as so good, while living on welfare because they can't apply for english speeking jobs!

[Akani]

Beause the more they do it, abortions, the more it trivalizes it. And it spreads cross-social boundries, not only poor women do it. And it doesn't fix the issue. If you need abortions, I'm sorry but your sexual protection sucks. I would rather give that money into free condoms, procedures to reduce the chance of getting pregnant. I do home some day in the near future we would remove the fertility of men and females from birth and only trigger it when they really do want to have a kid.

You're a man therefor you know more about women's reproductive rights than women and since women would be making the decision, it must be trivial to them because they're not capable of making important, critical decisions anyway. On a serious note, women's reproductive rights are none of your business so you have little or no right to express the direction you'd want sexual protections to go. Condoms place control of women's reproductive rights in the hands of men, every procedure to reduce the chance of getting pregnant has massive side-effects and can have a large chance of causing sterility, and your hypothetical procedure to suspend the fertility of people until they decide to conceive would also likely have a large chance of causing sterility.

Your opinions on abortion are patronizing, patriarchal, and due to not effecting you in any way are also misplaced. Also, you place criticisms on women that get abortions such as "your sexual protection sucks" with no regard to the many, various circumstances that lead to women getting an abortion and you assert your superior understanding on the matter of abortion despite your apparently lacking understanding. I'm not criticizing you for any of this, I'm just hoping you can see the truth in this and refrain from imposing your views of women's rights on women or suppose your understanding of this issue to supersede the people it actually involves (women).

[Elegiac]

Yeah no. Unless you are an immigrant that don't want to read up your history. Then you can keep telling yourself your spanish language is a plus and that minority segrageted communities as so good, while living on welfare because they can't apply for english speeking jobs!

You're aware that only citizens are eligible for welfare benefits, yes?

Oh wait, you aren't. Because you have no idea what the US is like.

[Rhine101]

Kids raised in a minority community in US is not american. They keep to their own culture, language and customs. That's not assimilation that's segregation by choice. And they do more harm to themselfs then any racists person could when they force their kids to segregate to "follow their own culture" rathen the integrate to the american population.

A mexican kid raised in a mexican communit that speaks mainly spanish is not an american kid but rather a mexican kid living on the other side of the border. He stands very little chance to integrate into english, majority, America because their parents choose to segregate him at birth!

Um. I was conceived in Jamaica. Born in New York. Joined the army and all that jazz. I also have a friend from Kenya who got his citizenship in Iraq.

I'd argue we are just as American as anyone else. Some would say we are maybe more American than most.

[spinner981]

Your opinions on abortion are patronizing, patriarchal, and due to not effecting you in any way are also misplaced. Also, you place criticisms on women that get abortions such as "your sexual protection sucks" with no regard to the many, various circumstances that lead to women getting an abortion and you assert your superior understanding on the matter of abortion despite your apparently lacking understanding. I'm not criticizing you for any of this, I'm just hoping you can see the truth in this and refrain from imposing your views of women's rights on women or suppose your understanding of this issue to supersede the people it actually involves (women).

Personally, from my perspective, the issue primarily involves the unborn children. Whether or not you want to exclude them because you arbitrarily think they aren't people, that's up to you. But don't go pointing at people telling them they are just doing it because they hate women or was trying to supersede women when the majority of people who appose abortion appose it for completely different reasons.

It's extremely silly to just enter an abortion discussion and say anyone pro-life is just sexist and patriarchal and what not, and therefore there opinions are false.

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Um. I was conceived in Jamaica. Born in New York. Joined the army and all that jazz. I also have a friend from Kenya who got his citizenship in Iraq.

I'd argue we are just as American as anyone else. Some would say we are maybe more American than most.

Legally speaking you are American. But I don't think that was his intention, and he may be wrong that you and yours might personally feel a strong bond to your country, but its clear that many don't feel that way, and some are to the point where despite being American citizens actively appose America and what it stands for (or at least used to stand for).

[Rhine101]

Personally, from my perspective, the issue primarily involves the unborn children. Whether or not you want to exclude them because you arbitrarily think they aren't people, that's up to you. But don't go pointing at people telling them they are just doing it because they hate women or was trying to supersede women when the majority of people who appose abortion appose it for completely different reasons.

It's extremely silly to just enter an abortion discussion and say anyone pro-life is just sexist and patriarchal and what not, and therefore there opinions are false.

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Legally speaking you are American. But I don't think that was his intention, and he may be wrong that you and yours might personally feel a strong bond to your country, but its clear that many don't feel that way, and some are to the point where despite being American citizens actively appose America and what it stands for (or at least used to stand for).

I know what he is saying. My point is that many Anglo white people seem to hate America and can be downright unpatriotic. Yet to say that they are American while that first generation American is not is kinda racist.

Sure people are in touch with their home culture. But no one is here talking about how your Irish buddy is non American. They are American. We are all immigrants and I don't mean that in some higher sense of the word. I mean that pragmatically. If your parents are American and or you were born here, you are american.

Now , you can be a shitty American and a burden on society, but that isn't something reserved only for immigrant kids.

[Akani]

Kids raised in a minority community in US is not american. They keep to their own culture, language and customs. That's not assimilation that's segregation by choice. And they do more harm to themselfs then any racists person could when they force their kids to segregate to "follow their own culture" rathen the integrate to the american population.

A mexican kid raised in a mexican communit that speaks mainly spanish is not an american kid but rather a mexican kid living on the other side of the border. He stands very little chance to integrate into english, majority, America because their parents choose to segregate him at birth!

Most of this is empirically false claims and the little that remains is opinions born of flawed logic.
Kids born in America are by definition American due to their immediate citizenship rights.
You claim that minority culture, language, and customs are separate from American culture. You are wrong. American culture is an aggregate of many minority cultures that together provide the uniquely "American" experience.
You also assert that keeping your language, your culture, and your customs is not compatible with or is inherently not assimilating, which is also empirically untrue. Jews practice their own culture, use their own language, and have their own customs yet they are assimilated very well into the greater American culture.
You also equate maintaining your culture to segregating yourself which is also untrue. In America you can do any cultural practice you like so long as it violates no laws and you can do so without segregating yourself at all. A Chinese-American man can celebrate Chinese New Year and make culturally Chinese food all he likes without needing to segregating yourself.
A Mexican-American kid that speaks mainly Spanish is an American by virtue of my first point.
And the aforementioned Mexican-American kid stands a really good chance to integrate to greater American culture and learn English very well. And even that relies on your assertion that his parents would segregate him into a "Mexican community", which they couldn't, wouldn't, and don't. Mexican-Americans assimilate readily, easily, and intentionally in every study that has ever been done on the subject. The entire point of coming to America for them is for greater opportunities, most of which are easier to gain when you assimilate and speak the dominant language.

Your post stinks of prejudice and ignorance which is evident in your assertions of how you feel Mexican-Americans integrate rather than even anecdotal evidence about how they actually do.