Mace Stun is back :)

[bewbew]

Since that's a PvE talent, and not a PvP one.... don't think so, mate.

How is that even remotely relevant? PvE talents work in PvP too.

[Dartz1979]

It really sounds like they are turning frost into a really great PvP spec. However I don't care for PvP...I want it to be a great PvE spec.

yea i agree with you there if i wanna pvp ill go horde they win most of the times and work together unlike alliance, seems like only good pvp ally server is sargeras

[Schizoide]

Unholy has an entire dps tier at 60 and frost has an entire c/c/utility tier instead.

I thought march of the damned was horrible but it got worse.

I'm fine with situational/utility PvE talents, as long as they're actually useful in PvE. The RNG stuns and incapacitates and crowd-control escapes really aren't.

[darkwarrior42]

I'm fine with situational/utility PvE talents, as long as they're actually useful in PvE. The RNG stuns and incapacitates and crowd-control escapes really aren't.

This. I'm not fond of "chance on chance" style abilities under the best of circumstances (dual-layer RNG FTL), but uncontrolled stuns in PvE are more often annoying than useful.

[Flarebrass]

Everything always makes a full circle at some point .