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    "Politically correct universities 'are killing free speech'"

    Politically correct universities 'are killing free speech'

    British universities have become too politically correct and are stifling free speech by banning anything that causes the least offence to anyone, academics argue

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education...ee-speech.html



    A whole generation of students is being denied the “intellectual challenge of debating conflicting views” because self-censorship is turning campuses into over-sanitised “safe spaces”, they say.

    Their intervention comes as an Oxford college considers removing a historic statue of Cecil Rhodes, one of its alumni and benefactors, because he is regarded as the founding father of apartheid in South Africa.

    Oriel College says the statue of Rhodes, on a building he paid for, jars with the values of a modern university. It is facing a battle with Historic England, which has listed the statue as an object of historical interest.

    Writing in The Telegraph, the academics, led by Frank Furedi, professor of sociology at the University of Canterbury, and Joanna Williams, education editor, Spiked, say it is part of a “long and growing” list of people and objects banned from British campuses, including pop songs, sombreros and atheists.

    They say the “deeply worrying development” is curtailing freedom of speech “like never before” because few things are safe from student censors.

    Because universities increasingly see fee-paying students as customers, they do not dare to stand up to the “small but vocal minority” of student activists who want to ban everything from the Sun newspaper to the historian David Starkey.

    The letter says: “Few academics challenge censorship that emerges from students. It is important that more do, because a culture that restricts the free exchange of ideas encourages self-censorship and leaves people afraid to express their views in case they may be misinterpreted. This risks destroying the very fabric of democracy.

    “An open and democratic society requires people to have the courage to argue against ideas they disagree with or even find offensive. At the moment there is a real risk that students are not given opportunities to engage in such debate.

    “A generation of students is being denied the opportunity to test their opinions against the views of those they don’t agree with.”

    Calling on vice-chancellors to take a “much stronger stance” against all forms of censorship, they conclude that “students who are offended by opposing views are perhaps not yet ready to be at university”.

    Professors have complained recently that they are being bullied online by students who are easily offended by opposing views.

    In recent months, students at British universities have banned, cancelled or challenged a host of speakers and objects because some found them offensive. Maryam Namazie, a prominent human rights campaigner who is one of the signatories to the letter, was initially banned from speaking at Warwick University because she is an atheist who, it was feared, could incite hatred on campus. She spoke at Warwick in the end.

    In September, the University of East Anglia banned students from wearing free sombreros they were given by a local Tex-Mex restaurant because the student union decided non-Mexicans wearing the wide-brimmed hats could be interpreted as racist.

    Oxford University cancelled a debate on abortion after female students complained that they would be offended by the presence of “a person without a uterus”, in other words a man, on the panel.

    Cardiff University students tried to ban the feminist icon Germaine Greer because she once wrote that a man who was castrated would not behave like a woman, which was construed as offensive to transsexuals.

    Mark Prisk, the Conservative MP in whose constituency Cecil Rhodes was born, said: “This rather narrow minded view of trying to shut down people’s opinions, even if we find them abhorrent, doesn’t remove the fact that they happened or that people held those opinions.”

    Ironically, the South African former Oriel student leading the campaign to remove the statue of Rhodes attended Oxford as a beneficiary of a scholarship funded by Rhodes’s legacy.

    Ntokozo Qwabe, who set up the Rhodes Must Fall in Oxford campaign, is one of more than 8,000 foreign students who have been able to study at Oxford because of a Rhodes Scholarship, paid for by the Rhodes Trust, which was set up by Cecil Rhodes in his will.

    Last month The Daily Telegraph revealed that students at Harvard had asked for rape law to be dropped from lectures in case any students were victims of sexual assault. And President Obama has said that “coddling” students is “not the way we learn”.

    Other signatories to the letter include Kathryn Ecclestone, professor of education at Sheffield University, Prof Alan Smithers of the Centre for Education and Employment Research at the University of Buckingham and Dr Cheryl Hudson, a history lecturer at Liverpool University.

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    TLDR: Politically correct SJWs are wrecking the education system because they're weak, easily offended idiots.
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    Oxford University cancelled a debate on abortion after female students complained that they would be offended by the presence of “a person without a uterus”, in other words a man, on the panel.
    I feel compelled to note that in the language-policing atmospheres described in this column, this sentence would itself be a microaggression. Not all people without a uterus are men, shitlord! Don't be trans-exclusionary, you cis-sexist!

    Whatever. All this cultural rot primarily impacts the humanities departments that are basically insular circle-jerks anyway. Humanities that have significant rigor (such as history and philosophy) don't seem too terribly impacted by this and STEM departments are even less so. If English departments become worthless aggrievement studies departments that do nothing but critical theory, I don't think we'll be too much worse off for it.
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    I'm getting education for being a socionom atm and the the political correctness among some of the other students is insane. Was accused by one of them of being racist when I brought up another theory when we were discussing crime and causes of it, because I didn't go by the poverty = crime theory that many likes to spout as being true, despite it just being a theory.

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    Indie film maker Neel Kolhatkar portrays the radicalized SJW indoctrination factories precisely.

    The video below is barely exaggerated, BARELY.

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    Students as customers is a bad move. I know a few lecturers in England who hate it. More and more are encountering students who think that when they pay their tuition fees, they have bought a degree, and the responsibility lies with the university to supply it- not the students to earn it. Fuck you Osborne, look what you have done.

    Though this in itself doesn't explain some of the other issues. Some is imported from the US. Though when you have institutions like the NUS, it isn't a surprise that things like this happen. It is worrying. No doubt people will come in with "lol, white man tears" and other nonsense. It is only a matter of time before people on the regressive left are torn apart by these kinds of rules they seek to impose.
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    What, you mean that they teach filthy, dirty, imure and unclean ''wumin'' to do other stuff than breed and ''make mah sandmiches'' ? They don't teach Mastah Roosh PUA coursework, AKA that wumin are dumb and love to be beaten ? That the ones that don't fall for PUA-MRA tricks are ''dumb ugly lezbian fat chicks that should get the gas chamber'' ?

    Oh, the horror. But on the other hand, you hate even more the subhuman ''brown'' people ''that put them in their place, thoze uglyz lezbian whinners''

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    What, you mean that they teach filthy, dirty, imure and unclean ''wumin'' to do other stuff than breed and ''make mah sandmiches'' ? They don't teach Mastah Roosh PUA coursework ?

    Oh, the horror. But on the other hand, you hate even more the subhuman ''brown'' people ''that put them in their place, thoze uglyz lezbian whinners''
    I might have asked you before, but what exactly do you hope to accomplish by deliberately misspelling a bunch of words? Is this just a means of antagonizing people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    What, you mean that they teach filthy, dirty, imure and unclean ''wumin'' to do other stuff than breed and ''make mah sandmiches'' ? They don't teach Mastah Roosh PUA coursework, AKA that wumin are dumb and love to be beaten ? That the ones that don't fall for PUA-MRA tricks are ''dumb ugly lezbian fat chicks that should get the gas chamber'' ?

    Oh, the horror. But on the other hand, you hate even more the subhuman ''brown'' people ''that put them in their place, thoze uglyz lezbian whinners''
    You do no one any justice by deliberately brushing off legitimate concerns with fake sexist outrage and misrepresenting positions.

    Universities are for learning, not for being coddled against everything you dont wanna hear because it might be a tiny bit offensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I might have asked you before, but what exactly do you hope to accomplish by deliberately misspelling a bunch of words? Is this just a means of antagonizing people?
    It's best to just slap posters such as that on ignore and/or report them for deliberately trying to lead the thread astray and towards a lock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    I might have asked you before, but what exactly do you hope to accomplish by deliberately misspelling a bunch of words? Is this just a means of antagonizing people?
    He's just doing what any radical SJW does when confronted with facts that they can't dispute: crying racism.

    Think nothing of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    What, you mean that they teach filthy, dirty, imure and unclean ''wumin'' to do other stuff than breed
    Yes they do at a disproportional rate.

    So disproportional that white young men in britain are the group with the worst economic propects.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...in-yougov.html
    YouGov data from 48 separate surveys has shown that young white men are seen as the worst ethnic, gender or age group almost across the board
    This group according to the SocJus crowd are the opressors. WTF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lilla Blomma View Post
    I'm getting education for being a socionom atm and the the political correctness among some of the other students is insane. Was accused by one of them of being racist when I brought up another theory when we were discussing crime and causes of it, because I didn't go by the poverty = crime theory that many likes to spout as being true, despite it just being a theory.
    Purely out of curiosity, what was the crime cause theory you were accused of being racist for?

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    By mocking MRA-PUA arguments ?

    As for the easily offended people, gee, I really ''wonder'' who is the most easily offended between MRA and feminists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davillage View Post
    Yes they do at a disproportional rate.

    So disproportional that white young men in britain are the group with the worst economic propects.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...in-yougov.html
    Please, go on, explain me how this link should be explained. I think that ths mean that you consider that education ''steal'' away girls from white males. Explain me the other potential meaning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    By mocking MRA-PUA arguments ?

    As for the easily offended people, gee, I really ''wonder'' who is the most easily offended between MRA and feminists.
    Disagreeing with sarahtasher means you're offended people, you heard it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    Thank you for pointing out that you find scandalous that white women are told anything.
    Taught at a disproportional rate
    http://fortune.com/2013/03/27/boys-v...ad-gender-gap/

    The education gap.
    Female grads now account for about 60% of U.S. bachelor’s degree holders.
    Feel the priviledge.

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    When there's no MRA - PUA arguments here, you're being deliberately disruptive. Stop it, and make an actual argument and not a fake made up one that exists only in lala land.

    and between the two both get offended at about the same rates so its rather pointless. Cant help being offended, but if the offense is something that is academically true, or academically necessary, then the person really needs to get over it instead of shut discussions down.

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    Anything within the proper framework for the course should be allowed. Seriously, classrooms are for learning, not being coddled. If the teacher is being a bigot in some way, then it's fine, but students need to learn the difference. It seems we now need university courses on the difference between being offensive and teaching material.

    As for University happenings that are outside the scope of a course, then sure, there's a lot broader scope for offensive things. I think it's silly to take down a statue, rather it should have a proper placard explaining what it's a placard of. We need to display the mistakes of the past, like apartheid and the sexist/racist policies of the past so that said things can be properly shamed and avoided. We shouldn't hide the fact that they ever existed because it might hurt someone's feelings.
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    OP leaves this shit here and up and vanishes. what was the point of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sarahtasher View Post
    By mocking MRA-PUA arguments ?

    As for the easily offended people, gee, I really ''wonder'' who is the most easily offended between MRA and feminists.
    Feminists obviously, since even the mention of MRA seems to trigger you hard ahahahaha.

    Must be a sad existence you live.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uvwaex View Post
    Purely out of curiosity, what was the crime cause theory you were accused of being racist for?
    That crime is learned behaviour, that spending time with criminals could be an introduction to crime because of peer pressure and so forth. Was apparently racist because minorities are overrepresented in crime and thus I implied minorities were criminals, or something. They wanted it to be related to socioeconomic status.

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