Is being branded racist for opinions/concerns making us ("more") racist?

[Zoaric]

Cultural racism is a thing.
But you're pretty much the reason why I said "racist" is a confusing term.
Obviously saying "these people will destroy our culture" is "intolerant" terminology. If applied to any "race" of people it would clearly be targeted as "racist". The definition of "racism" is moving along because, you know, even definitions evolve and adapt to different times.

If it has nothing to do with race, then it's not racist.

[Draco-Onis]

I do believe people are calling out more stuff than before, and some of that can indeed be a stretch, but I wouldn't say "actual racism" (what's that? KKK stuff?) is more "acceptable" now. How would that even work? It may indeed be blurring the lines, but on the other end of the spectrum. It's making more stuff fall on the "racist" category.

I believe most of what people put as racism nowadays is basically stereotypes that people can't get out of. I have lost count of how many times people have said oh I did not know people of your race were like that. I have heard that comment from people who I know are not racist or bad people they just have not had any contact with anyone outside their race so they embraced stereotypes from what they see on TV.

Now I have experienced real racism that was from working as a broker in an investment firm, new racism is subtle and not blunt anymore. It's institutionalized and accepted at that level because there is simply a glass ceiling you cannot break in some firms you just do your time and move on to somewhere more progressive. The real racist don't wear hoods anymore for the most part they wear expensive suits.

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If it has nothing to do with race, then it's not racist.

Your word against many others.
Hence why it's a confusing term and it's silly to use it.
Intolerant would do just fine I guess.

[Oviorasi]

I hate when I something critical about any minority and it is automatically assumed it's because I'm racist or some kind of phobic. I know what they are really saying with that accusation is "Shut up. I don't want to hear that opinion and I don't want anyone else to hear it either."

[Kuntantee]

Cultural racism is a thing.

Shitting on culture/religion is the contemporary form of racism because "inferior genes" and whatnot is first a social dogma now and second scientifically proven to be bullshit. Now, they have "culture" and "religion" to shit on.

[Xeones]

I don't know what that means. Was that supposed to be a snarky comeback?

No?

I was just saying it's not a good idea to humor people who try to debate the definitions of words than the matter at hand.

[Deleted]

Shitting on culture/religion is the contemporary form of racism because "inferior genes" and whatnot is first a social dogma now and second scientifically proven to be bullshit. Now, they have "culture" and "religion" to shit on.

That's why some scholars are discussing or better have discussed this particular definition.

Cultural
Cultural racism is a term used to describe and explain new racial ideologies and practices that have emerged since World War II. It can be defined as societal beliefs and customs that promote the assumption that the products of a given culture, including the language and traditions of that culture are superior to those of other cultures. It shares a great deal with xenophobia, which is often characterised by fear of, or aggression toward, members of an outgroup by members of an ingroup.
Cultural racism exists when there is a widespread acceptance of stereotypes concerning different ethnic or population groups. Where racism can be characterised by the belief that one race is inherently superior to another, cultural racism can be characterised by the belief that one culture is inherently superior to another.

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No?

I was just saying it's not a good idea to humor people who try to debate the definitions of words than the matter at hand.

I apologize but you lost me there brother.

[PC2]

Shitting on culture/religion is the contemporary form of racism because "inferior genes" and whatnot is first a social dogma now and second scientifically proven to be bullshit. Now, they have "culture" and "religion" to shit on.

All cultures and religions are fallible and criticizable, so get used to them being shit on.

[Zoaric]

Your word against many others.
Hence why it's a confusing term and it's silly to use it.
Intolerant would do just fine I guess.

It's in the name and definition. Another term for hate based on culture (a trait that
is plastic) would be far superior to further devaluing a word describing hate based
on race (a trait that is static.)

[Deleted]

It's in the name and definition. Another term for hate based on culture (a trait that
is plastic) would be far superior to further devaluing a word describing hate based
on race (a trait that is static.)

Mind you I agree with you.

[Zoaric]

Mind you I agree with you.

If some Pol hadn't already coined it as something completely different, I'd suggest
"Culturalism".

[Bushtuckrman]

Had this come up in a conversation with a tenant. He is convinced that the trend of branding people racists when they have differing opinions is diminishing what is and isn't actual racism, and through that, making actual racism that much more "acceptable" or at least blurring the lines between reasonable concerns and blatant prejudice.

I don't have a particular opinion made on this, but i do find the trend of "You don't want to do x for y? You must be Yphobic!" as a conversational roadblock to be a disgusting practice that keeps issues from being talked about seriously.

So discuss? opinions? Do forum stuff, and make that mmo-cMagic happen.

Its polarization. Left winged people go more polarized further to the left into totalitarianism and the right can go more polarized into authoritarianism. I wouldn't say fascism as people these days use that word with no weight as they do not know what it actually is. Yes strangely pro immigrant people still think its about race I gues s they need to so they can still use the racism card even though the word is losing all meaning. There is actual racism in the world you can see it in many parts of the world and no it is not in western countries.

[Kuntantee]

All cultures and religions are fallible and criticizable, so get used to them being shit on.

Get ready to be called a racist, and quit crying when you are called one, when your real intention is not to criticize a culture/religion but shit on people who are part of that culture/religion.

[Deleted]

If some Pol hadn't already coined it as something completely different, I'd suggest
"Culturalism".

"you damn culturalst"

Doesnt carry the same weight

[PC2]

Get ready to be called a racist and quit crying when you are called one when your real intention is not to criticize a culture/religion but shit on people who are part of that culture/religion.

People of all races are fallible and criticizable. Nobody is special or immune. Civilized society only works if ALL groups can take criticism and be self-critical.

[Zoaric]

"you damn culturalst"

Doesnt carry the same weight

That's simply because we haven't applied a negative connotation to it yet.

[Khaza-R]

I wouldn't say being accused of being a racist/sexist/homophobe/etc makes you more likely to display those qualities.

However I do think it makes people more numb towards those issues.

[Kuntantee]

People of all races are also fallible and criticizable. Nobody is special or immune. Civilized society only works if ALL groups can take criticism and be self-critical.

You can criticize individual people, you can't criticize cultural, ethnic or religious groups.

[PC2]

You can criticize individual people, you can't criticize cultural, ethnic or religious groups.

Wrong, no culture, ethnic group, or religion is perfect or above criticism.

[fwc577]

Racism is always a hard subject where I'm from. I live in one of the most segregated areas in the US and it has nothing to do with where people are forced to live and everything to do with where people choose to live.

I used to deliver pizza and I can tell you that in my delivery area, there were streets that only have white people, or black people, or middle eastern people living on them.

As for tipping, there is also a clear divide based on many things, including Age, Race, Sex, and Religion of how people tipped. If I were to average out all my tips from the time I worked delivery, White men tipped the best while Black women tipped the worst, regardless of which neighborhood, economically speaking, they were living in.

Though, any day could surprise you. Got a house that a Black woman was living in with her son, in a relatively decent neighborhood on the night of the Manny/Piqau fight. Before I left, one of the other drivers told me don't expect a tip, she never tips. Ended up with a $20 tip.

I think the difference between -isms and -phobias is how you act. I wouldn't have served that house any differently than I would've served any house with a White guy living in it. However, I'm sure noticing those things are enough for many people to call me racist, simply because it's a much deeper subject about all the contributing factors that people don't want to discuss.

With all that said, by far the worst tippers were Hospital and Nursing Home staff regardless of race, gender, religion, etc. I was always very tempted to just throw their shit at the front door and tell them to come pick scrape it off the window themselves. Not only did they not fucking tip (except for 1 time, 1 time I got a tip) you always had to stand around waiting for them to finish dealing with patients on top of not getting a tip.