New/Almost new PC build 1500€ -1700€ budget

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Hi there, this is my first post on mmo-c, I've been a reader since wotlk, but never posted before. So:
My graphic card died this week (or at least I think it is the graphic card what died), my screen shows in a lower resolution than it should and it shows lots of horizontal red lines in all the screen.
This my actual setup:

Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU cooler (no idea, no idea of where to know it)
Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Motherboard
Kingston DDR 3 8 GB 1600 Mhz Memory
Western Digital 3Tb WD30EZRX Internal Hard Drive
Asus GeForce GTX 570 DirectCU II 1280MB GDDR5 Graphic card
XGE 600W ATX TQXGE-600SAP Power supply
NZXT Phantom (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case
HP x2301 Micro Thin LED Backlit monitor 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor

The idea is to keep the parts still usable and buy the rest, my idea is to replace graphic card, power supply and monitor for start, but I'm no expert and i don't have almost any idea in computer building.
-I don't discard about building a new pc from 0 if this setup is really bad or too old.
-Also, I wanted to ask if the unicorn setup of this month is good in quality-price relation.
-If possible I'd want to build a silent but potent pc and not too expensive, I'm tired of my actual truck-like computer.

Budget: If its a full new pc about 1500€ -1700€ (with monitor if needed), if not depends the pieces that need replacing, your choice
Games / Settings Desired: I'd love to run all in ultra/max settings.
Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc): Yup, Cinema 4D, Adobe Premiere, etc. But mostly for gaming.
Country: Spain, can buy parts from other countries if it means cheaper.
Parts that can be reused: I think motherboard, processor, hard drive, tower case can be kept, but again, I'm not an expert, I'm trusting your knowledge.
Do you need an OS? Nope.
Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)? Maybe monitor.

English is not my main language so if you don't understand something ask me so I may try to explain a little better. Thanks!

[Lathais]

Unless you want to OC, your CPU should still be fine for a couple years. Replacing it would mean either staying in the old dead socket and getting a 4690K so you can OC or replacing CPU/MoBo/RAM. Only CPU Bound games such as WoW will really benefit from the CPU Upgrade though. You should still be fine with what you have, however, since you also do encoding, it may be worth it to look at X99 stuff, like an i7-5820K. With your budget, you could easily do this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor ($374.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler ($89.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-UD3P (rev. 1.0) ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard ($173.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($72.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.89 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390X 8GB Video Card ($379.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1368.30
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-10 11:56 EST-0500

Which would work great for gaming and encoding. Yes, these are US prices, so meant more as an example than anything. If you did not want to spend that much you would be just fine dropping in a GPU/PSU/SSD(if you do not already have one).

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Just to put the above in euro.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (€408.32 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€92.84 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: ASRock X99 Extreme4 ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard (€209.67 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€86.23 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€105.26 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.45 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390X 8GB SOC Video Card (€403.42 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€107.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€92.00)
Total: €1560.03
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-10 19:23 CET+0100

And something a bit cheaper.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€367.83 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€64.94 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€151.83 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€86.23 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€105.26 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.45 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card (€340.66 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€107.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€92.00)
Total: €1371.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-10 19:22 CET+0100

[Ghâzh]

You should still be fine with what you have, however, since you also do encoding, it may be worth it to look at X99 stuff, like an i7-5820K. With your budget, you could easily do this.

Sure it might be worth to look at, but if you only do "some" encoding, you got to ask yourself, do you wanna shell out $500 just so you cut render times by a few minutes when it's done on the hobby level?

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2 x Rig

Those are nice setup Zeara except the psu. Its not enough for either those setups especially the first. You need a good 650W for either, you can even go a little higher on 1st one if you are going to be overclocking both cpu and gpu.

So modding that 1st one with a 500gb ssd:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor (€408.22 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€74.94 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X99-SLI ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard (€218.25 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€83.99 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€156.95 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.45 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390X 8GB SOC Video Card (€403.33 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€107.84 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€114.90 @ Caseking)
Total: €1622.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-10 21:50 CET+0100


Honestly if Adobe etc is just a hobby and mostly is for gaming i would grab the 6700k/Z170 build that is cheaper anyway and will be better out of the box for gaming. It will leave budget for a good monitor. This would be what i'd go for with a 1440p monitor:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€367.83 @ Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€74.94 @ Mindfactory)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170X-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€151.83 @ Mindfactory)
Memory: Kingston FURY 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€83.99 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€105.26 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.45 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390X 8GB SOC Video Card (€403.33 @ Mindfactory)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case (€81.66 @ Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€114.90 @ Caseking)
Monitor: BenQ GW2765HT 60Hz 27.0" Monitor (€429.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1867.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-02-10 21:55 CET+0100


For cheaper monitor there is the 25" Dell U2515H @ 309euro


edit: actually if the 3tb hdd is fine and has loads of storage left you can save some money from not buying a new one, only ssd.

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Thanks all for your help, I really appreciate cause I'm lost in this computer building thing. So I thought about getting like half of the pieces (the ones I need now) and buy the rest of it in 3-4 months.

And I have a few questions:
-You all pick a SSD for the build, in my current pc I only have 1 internal hard drive, so why the SSD is so necessary? (newbie question)
-I've been doing some searching and found this 3 parts, from the unicorn setup of the month with € prices.
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card 363€
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 109€
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 105€
Are the pieces worth? and the full unicorn build?

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Thanks all for your help, I really appreciate cause I'm lost in this computer building thing. So I thought about getting like half of the pieces (the ones I need now) and buy the rest of it in 3-4 months.

No sure its worth it unless you can't play atm. Always better to buy when you can get everything.

And I have a few questions:
-You all pick a SSD for the build, in my current pc I only have 1 internal hard drive, so why the SSD is so necessary? (newbie question)

The ssd is for o/s and games. Hdd's for storage, movies, music, game you play rarely etc. Ssd's are simply faster at everything.

I've been doing some searching and found this 3 parts, from the unicorn setup of the month with € prices.
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card 363€
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 109€
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 105€
Are the pieces worth? and the full unicorn build?

Did you find those exact parts in your country with those prices or you just made the usd to euro conversion? I wouldn't buy a gtx970 atm, i would get an R9 390X for a little more. More powerful thus the 650w psu. With a gtx970 you could even run in on a good 450-500w psu, but doesn't support dx12 so...not worth atm.

[Deleted]

Those are nice setup Zeara except the psu. Its not enough for either those setups especially the first. You need a good 650W for either, you can even go a little higher on 1st one if you are going to be overclocking both cpu and gpu.

I might be cutting it a bit to close with the first build. But the second build should be fine with the 550 watt.

Thanks all for your help, I really appreciate cause I'm lost in this computer building thing. So I thought about getting like half of the pieces (the ones I need now) and buy the rest of it in 3-4 months.

And I have a few questions:
-You all pick a SSD for the build, in my current pc I only have 1 internal hard drive, so why the SSD is so necessary? (newbie question)
-I've been doing some searching and found this 3 parts, from the unicorn setup of the month with € prices.
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card 363€
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply 109€
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory 105€
Are the pieces worth? and the full unicorn build?

- Get an SSD! If you put windows on it everything feel a lot faster. You don't want to live without one once you had one

- Stick with the 390 or 390x. They perform better at higher resolutions than the 970. And at 1080p, the 970 and 390 perform similar and the 390x is faster.
- PSU is also good, I think
- With memory I would stick with something at 2400 MHz.
- I have no idea how the unicorn build looks like, but usually those builds are not that great.

[Ghâzh]

No way that setup is too old. I bought that CPU this year (and same RAM as yours) and I plan to use it next 4-5 years.

I'm thinking likewise. Get a new GPU and PSU (the old one is really sketchy) to go with it and maybe toss in an SSD and you're good to go. If you feel later that the CPU isn't cutting it anymore for your editing needs you can always upgrade later.

[Deleted]

OK, thank you all again.

Did you find those exact parts in your country with those prices or you just made the usd to euro conversion?

Not the euro conversion, its the price of the parts in amazon in my country. Though they are far cheaper in US dollar (newegg or amazon), the transport and import fees cost like 60$ more for each part.

Pcpartpicker:
CPU. Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor 244.00€
CPU Cooler. be quiet! Dark-Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler 85.83€G
Motherboard. ASRock z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard 146.61€
Memory. Kingston HyperX Fury Black 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory 79.83€
Storage. Samsung 850 EVO Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card. Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card
Case. Corsair Air 540 ATX Mid Tower Case 183.15€
Power Supply. EVGA SuperNova G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **€739.42**

Sorry, I had to delete the links because I can't post them yet, had to copy-paste all the info from pcpartpicker.

I made this full build with your choice ssd which I found in a nice sale in my country, picked also the gtx 970 cause its cheaper in my country than the radeon. I don't know why SSD, the graphic card and power supply doesn't show the price but in amazon(spain) they show just right, they go as:

Samsung 850 EVO 250GB Serial ATA III, 540 MB/s, 2.5" 88€
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 VGA NVIDIA (4 GB, GDDR5, PCIe, DVI, HDMI) 357€
EVGA SuperNOVA 650 GS 650W, 100 - 240V, 50 - 60 Hz 139€

I might change the power supply for another one cheaper and equally good as this one. So the price of the full build would be around 1300€.
Now its just a choice between making this full build (with some minor changes) or just buying the 3 pieces I really need. SSD, Graphic card and PSU for around 600€

This all without monitor, I decided keeping the one I have whatever the build.

[Deleted]

Is skylake that much more expensive than Haswell? I mean i5 6600k/Z170mobo/DDR4 ram. They are pretty close in price everywhere else so that the extra say 20euro difference is worth it going with a new gen instead of old.

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Ok, so its decided, im getting SSD, PSU and Video card.

Samsung 850 EVO - SSD (250 GB, Serial ATA III, 540 MB/s, 2.5") 159.99€ with 45% discount = 87.80€
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 - VGA NVIDIA (4 GB, GDDR5, PCIe, DVI, HDMI) 505.19€ with 29% discount = 358.00€
Corsair RMx 650W ATX Modular 80+ Gold 113.83€
Makes a total of 559.63€

I also considered the EVGA SuperNOVA 650W 80+ Gold and the Corsair RMx 550W 80+ Gold (by Zeara), this two are 40€ and 20€ more expensive respectively than the one I choose, so my question is if they are really worth the +price or if im good to go with that one.

My full build then will look like this, with the parts I'm reusing:

Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor
CPU cooler (no idea, no idea of where to know it)
Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H Motherboard
Kingston DDR 3 8 GB 1600 Mhz Memory
Samsung 850 EVO - SSD (250 GB, Serial ATA III, 540 MB/s, 2.5") Solid Slate Drive 87.80€
Western Digital 3Tb WD30EZRX Internal Hard Drive
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 - VGA NVIDIA (4 GB, GDDR5, PCIe, DVI, HDMI) Graphic card 358.00€
Corsair RMx 650W ATX Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply 113.83€
NZXT Phantom (Black/Orange) ATX Full Tower Case
HP x2301 Micro Thin LED Backlit monitor 1920x1080 60 Hz Monitor

And the other question, is this build 100% compatible with the new parts?
I really need to know anything you know/think about this to buy it as soon as possible because I don't know where the sale ends. Thanks!!!

[Denpepe]

Never skimp on a PSU it's the single most important part of your pc and if it fails it could take out a lot of other parts

[Deleted]

Never skimp on a PSU it's the single most important part of your pc and if it fails it could take out a lot of other parts

Yeah, but the RMx line is good.

I assume there is a sale on the RM650x, if so just go for it. It is the same as the 550 watt version just has more watts.

[Lathais]

Yeah, but the RMx line is good.

I assume there is a sale on the RM650x, if so just go for it. It is the same as the 550 watt version just has more watts.

I think he was referring to the XGE 600W the OP had originally chosen. All the others recommended in this thread look fine to me.

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And the other question, is this build 100% compatible with the new parts?
I really need to know anything you know/think about this to buy it as soon as possible because I don't know where the sale ends. Thanks!!!

As for this, yeah, you'll be fine.

[Deleted]

For the GPU, you may want to get a MSI TwinFrozr instead of a Gigabyte, the MSI is way more silent.

[Deleted]

For the GPU, you may want to get a MSI TwinFrozr instead of a Gigabyte, the MSI is way more silent.

I got the other mainly because of the sale, but thx

Its done then, I've already ordered it.
Samsung 850 EVO - SSD (250 GB, Serial ATA III, 540 MB/s, 2.5") 87.80€
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 970 G1 - VGA NVIDIA (4 GB, GDDR5, PCIe, DVI, HDMI) 358.00€
Corsair RMx 650W ATX Modular 80+ Gold 113.83€
Makes a total of 559.63€

Thanks a lot for your opinions and help, I would have been completely lost without you. Anytime you need some info, opinion, knowledge or whatever related with design, arts, color, illustration and so... you just need to post or pm and I'll be happy to help. Thanks! :P