Woman targeted for having Trump sticker on laptop while sitting in class

[Hammerfest]

It's perfectly justifiable in the mind of a leftist to destroy the property of someone who they perceive as conservative... particularly if said property happens to have any sort of perceived conservative sociopolitical message printed on it. I had a friend who went out and got a "Recall Walker" bumper sticker for his car (with military plates) so it wouldn't be keyed or damaged by college liberals when he parked on campus.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

He said he would smash her laptop. Not her face. If I said, "If this dick clicks his pen one more time, I am going to break it." What would be the difference? Should I be expelled?

Kind of glossing over the fact that he punched her in the chest and/or pushed her by the throat, aren't ya?

[WskyDK]

But really? Battery? He shoved her.

Yeah, that's battery.

[Kathandira]

America.


We punish our guilty, not hold their hand and say "There there, you are not at fault, [Abstract Reason] made you do it."

Cool, so when a 12 year old does the exact same thing on the play ground, how would you handle it?

Schools I attended would bring them to the councilor and have them talk it out. This should be handled no different. Schools are there to teach, not punish. There is a lesson these two can learn here, and a great opportunity for the school to teach that lesson.

[AeneasBK]

Assaulting someone based on the candidate they support is wrong. But I really don't see how this is newsworthy. At all.

Yeah I enjoyed the line about "sweeping it under the rug".... as opposed to just giving it the attention it deserves, i.e. not a lot.

[A dot Ham]

Don't know if anyone saw this or posted on this but I think this is a relevant discussion. Here is a link to the story:

http://heavy.com/news/2016/02/cliffo...eaction-names/

Basically, Guy at St. John's University snapped a pic of someone in one of his classes and posted a tweet saying, "7000 retweets and I smash this bitches computer". The computer had a "Trump: Make America Great Again" sticker on it.

Over the course of several hours, the post went viral, getting well over 7,000 shares and the woman was made aware of the post. She asked him to take it down, words were exchanged, a coffee or tea was thrown, she got punched in the chest/shoved in the neck.

It appears St. John's is attempting to sweep it under the rug. A post was made by friends of the person doing the original tweet that he got off with a warning. The person who made the original tweet has had his account suspended by Twitter. A lot of screenshots are still floating around of everything he said on Twitter.

First off, I personally think this kid needs a semester off at minimum. Even if you let them both off with a warning for the physical altercation with the coffee/tea and shoving (because, lets be honest, when you throw a beverage at someone, you're not blameless), this guy should not have snapped her pic in class then posted it with a threat online. I pulled up the code of conduct where I went to school and it is something that would be a somewhat lengthy process through a review board but I am fairly confident in saying that he would be forced to take the remaining of the semester off and have to write an apology letter. If he didn't do those things, he wouldn't be allowed back.

Fuck the school get the police involved... that's assault plain and simple.

If you have the freedom of speech to express support of an idiot like trump.

Then someone else has the right to take a picture of it (not you) in that public place and berate you for it.

But lets say for a second she did have her picture taken. If your rights are violated you don't solve it by violating their rights.

Over opinionated SJWs in an old fashioned throw down... nothing to see here... the cat fight will end soon.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

It's perfectly justifiable in the mind of a leftist to destroy the property of someone who they perceive as conservative... particularly if said property happens to have any sort of perceived conservative sociopolitical message printed on it. I had a friend who went out and got a "Recall Walker" bumper sticker for his car (with military plates) so it wouldn't be keyed or damaged by college liberals when he parked on campus.

Can we just dispense with the notion that just because one person on the left or the right did something shitty...that all people on the same side are guilty of that same behaviour?

[Kathandira]

Kind of glossing over the fact that he punched her in the chest and/or pushed her by the throat, aren't ya?

Sure, she also threw coffee or tea at him. The series of events are in question, so I don't want to address potential truths.

[WskyDK]

Fuck the school get the police involved... that's assault plain and simple.

If you have the freedom of speech to express support of an idiot like trump.

Then someone else has the right to take a picture of it (not you) in that public place and berate you for it.

But lets say for a second she did have her picture taken. If your rights are violated you don't solve it by violating their rights.

Over opinionated SJWs in an old fashioned throw down... nothing to see here... the cat fight will end soon.

Again, it wasn't a public place. St. Johns is a private Catholic University .

[fwc577]

He said he would smash her laptop. Not her face. If I said, "If this dick clicks his pen one more time, I am going to break it." What would be the difference? Should I be expelled?

If you are in a private school in a classroom I suspect the teacher should immediatly kick your ass right out of class at a minimum.

[WskyDK]

Can we just dispense with the notion that just because one person on the left or the right did something shitty...that all people on the same side are guilty of that same behaviour?

You take your sense-making and blow it out your ass! /s

[Deleted]

Basically, Guy at St. John's University snapped a pic of someone in one of his classes and posted a tweet saying, "7000 retweets and I smash this bitches computer". The computer had a "Trump: Make America Great Again" sticker on it.

Over the course of several hours, the post went viral, getting well over 7,000 shares and the woman was made aware of the post. She asked him to take it down, words were exchanged, a coffee or tea was thrown, she got punched in the chest/shoved in the neck..

All is great in SJW land -

[Dug]

I do agree it's not completely clear. Judging by the threats he was posting I think it's pretty clear that he instigated the ordeal however. And if someone is insulting you and baiting you into a response, sometimes the other person will do something like throw a drink. Let's not pretend that this doesn't happen. No physical struggle happens out of the blue, words lead up to it.

I agree, it does happen and will always happen until the end of time I reckon but an argument is still not grounds for assault. Doesn't matter who "started" the confrontation, so long as its verbal both people are just being dumb, once somebody puts hands on the other then all bets are off.

[Ol Scratch]

Snapping the picture of a person (with that person being the focus of the picture) and putting it online without getting consent is a crime.

WTF? No it's not. The incident took place in a location where ther was no expectation of privacy.

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Again, it wasn't a public place. St. Johns is a private Catholic University .

Clearly you don't understand what a public place actually is.

[Evil Midnight Bomber]

Sure, she also threw coffee or tea at him. The series of events are in question, so I don't want to address potential truths.

The point is it went beyond the threat of smashing the laptop. Regardless of who started what...it ended up in a physical altercation.

[Kathandira]

If you are in a private school in a classroom I suspect the teacher should immediatly kick your ass right out of class at a minimum.

Absolutely, but that doesn't exactly solve anything. If anything, if the person being kicked out is already irritated or acting aggressively, you would want to defuse the situation, rather than potentially escalating it. She should have brought both of the students to the school counselor to have them both remediated.

[WskyDK]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/...icle-1.2527304

Not sure how accurate it is, but the NY Daily News is reporting that she threw the drink first.

[BuckSparkles]

Cool, so when a 12 year old does the exact same thing on the play ground, how would you handle it?

Schools I attended would bring them to the councilor and have them talk it out. This should be handled no different. Schools are there to teach, not punish. There is a lesson these two can learn here, and a great opportunity for the school to teach that lesson.

Difference is A: they are adults.

Also, the school can punish them as they see fit.

Your line of reasoning is rather simplistic. "Oh they are just misbehaving, try and talk to them."

After a certain age, that kind of shit doesn't work. What world do you live in?

[unbound]

Absolutely agree. Regardless of the sticker, there is absolutely no reason for threats and assault just because you don't agree with someone.

[Kathandira]

Difference is A: they are adults.

Also, the school can punish them as they see fit.

Your line of reasoning is rather simplistic. "Oh they are just misbehaving, try and talk to them."

After a certain age, that kind of shit doesn't work. What world do you live in?

but it totally does. I was a peer mediator and peer mentor in both highschool and in college. It definitely can work.