Archimonde Mythic - Cooldown rotation?

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Hey, we been progressing on archi for 4 days now i think, i feel like i got the cooldown management down for our tactic and raid dps to fit stuff in, but there is one 30-40sec window in the fight where im unable to use vanish eventho i have it up, i cant figure out how to change my prep usage to fit one more vanish in before 2nd ring where i must have vanish up again.

The thought procress of my current pulls:
Phase 1:
Vanish, Dance, Prep Vanish to get +1-2 ambush from 2nd vanish into the ring, then FoK(on first deathcaller) to get vanish up for 2nd doomfire, to get dance and vanish up sametime.
Phase 2:
During first Wrought of Chaos i will get my Vanish back off cooldown, but im unable to use it for 2 reasons, i wont have it back up for ring and lust we use during 2nd Wrought of chaos and also using vanish during first Wrought of chaos can instant break the shackles if its even tiny bit delayed..

Having that 30-40sec window where i cant vanish drives me mad and i cant figure out how to sneak in another vanish but i feel like its doable with different prep usage

Any help is appreceated, regarding vanish or any other issues you can see

Some logs of our archi pulls:

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...es=1&source=21

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...es=1&source=11

[maddnesskhaz]

On my phone so can't check much; We usually hold the 2nd ring until after a move away from Wrought's to give a clear window for DPS. I just hold my Dance / SR / Vanish for that. We only do 1 doom fire now but fairly sure the general principle was the same for us when we did 2.

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I don't understand with current ilvl why you BL in 2nd phase. It is so wasteful. There is nothing going on just spread, dps boss/deathcaller interrupt overfiend and passively cleave him and dogs. You either want to bl on pull and skip 2nd doomfire or save it for last phase. Having one doomfire makes this encounter trivial and you need alot less healing. Playing with more single target damage is a win on this fight imo. Your locks should go affli. Talk with your raid lead and ask if this is the way he really wants to kill this boss.

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bl on pull and skip 2nd doomfire

we gave that few pulls but we were still transitioning 70% sametime as we got 2nd doomfire, it was on first day of archi progress tho, so it might go abit smoothly nowday not sure

[elfporn]

On my phone so can't check much; We usually hold the 2nd ring until after a move away from Wrought's to give a clear window for DPS. I just hold my Dance / SR / Vanish for that. We only do 1 doom fire now but fairly sure the general principle was the same for us when we did 2.

this. We usually end up holding second ring use by 5-10sec, and the timing is such that it goes off without hitting any adds, but is up while burning down a deathcaller.

lust+ring on pull for 1 doomfire. all dps except warriors ignore everything except archi until 70%, if needed can move 1-2 dps onto doomfire. Ring has to be used immediately on pull, a 2-3sec delay means it hits doomcaller and you won't make the breakpoint. Also, make sure all soulcaps hit the boss only.

once you start getting below, our fav spot to use ring so far is immediately after mark of the legion(~30sec delay) - ring is rolling for infernals and hits the crystal. second use below comes up around ~10%

GL

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this. We usually end up holding second ring use by 5-10sec, and the timing is such that it goes off without hitting any adds, but is up while burning down a deathcaller.

lust+ring on pull for 1 doomfire. all dps except warriors ignore everything except archi until 70%, if needed can move 1-2 dps onto doomfire. Ring has to be used immediately on pull, a 2-3sec delay means it hits doomcaller and you won't make the breakpoint. Also, make sure all soulcaps hit the boss only.

once you start getting below, our fav spot to use ring so far is immediately after mark of the legion(~30sec delay) - ring is rolling for infernals and hits the crystal. second use below comes up around ~10%

GL

i did some log research to see if with our best pull so far 35% the first 50sec of the pull we did 133m dmg without lust(27.7% -> archi 72.3%), at 50-52sec 2nd doomfire spawns, so we are really close to getting 1 doomfire first phase without hero, so with some tweaking we can get definitely get it i feel, with lust saved for last phase or the third phase as the 3rd phase seems to be the trouble for us, to get into nether phases without spending all CR and / or having tank die to deathcaller we are dragging down as we transition..

but any rogue specific stuff on the vanish thing anyone?

[elfporn]

i did some log research to see if with our best pull so far 35% the first 50sec of the pull we did 133m dmg without lust(27.7% -> archi 72.3%), at 50-52sec 2nd doomfire spawns, so we are really close to getting 1 doomfire first phase without hero, so with some tweaking we can get definitely get it i feel, with lust saved for last phase or the third phase as the 3rd phase seems to be the trouble for us, to get into nether phases without spending all CR and / or having tank die to deathcaller we are dragging down as we transition..

but any rogue specific stuff on the vanish thing anyone?

1 doomfire massively simplifies the fight. If we don't make it, we wipe - it's not worth continuing.

SD/vanish for each ring is best use (imo) use prep-->vanish on the pull after first snd refresh.

[shaunika123]

wait
why arent you lusting on pull?

you can skip phase 1 entirely if you do.

also why would you use prep on pull if you dont have BL?

just use prep on your second SR+dance(for which you apparently lust) and you can vanish freely.

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wait
why arent you lusting on pull?

you can skip phase 1 entirely if you do.

also why would you use prep on pull if you dont have BL?

just use prep on your second SR+dance(for which you apparently lust) and you can vanish freely.

im prepping on pull to have 2nd prep on the fight, it also gives me 1-2 ambush into ring, also i use my 3rd dance of for ring, my 4th vanish is delayed 30sec ish so i can get vanish for our lust/ring