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    I'll be glad when the election is over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daish View Post
    people are only supporting Trump because they are sick of Social Justice Warriors, Feminists and PC culture being forced down their throat

    if you dont want Trump to have support you will need to stop the SWJ/Feminists/PC groups from creating so much hate
    Spot on. This is exactly why Trump has become popular, also why I like him. He opened the debate that nobody else dared do, and look at him now, storming the polls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seiko Sora View Post
    I'll be glad when the election is over
    Yea, it'll be a nice couple of days before the next one starts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skavau View Post
    Here. Either you think Trump is a conspiracy theorist akin to someone like Alex Jones, or that he's just abusing the credulity of his likely voters or that he's making a joke.
    Or you agree that climate change is blown out of proportion, is likely not man-made in origin, and was sensationalized (by who I don't care) to sell "green" products. I was not aware of this quote but while I am in favor of things being environmentally friendly and us moving towards being more "green", I do not think that if we don't anything bad will happen.

    As for the other quote, I am pretty vanilla on the treatment of the families of terrorists at this point. One part of me thinks that no innocent person should be mistreated or "taken out", but the other says that they could have always turned their kids in. You do have a responsibility as a parent to turn your child in or stop them yourself if they are planning to blow themselves and others up after all. Like I said, I am pretty vanilla on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    And you think the USA, with a very liberal media, will ever become a totalitarian state with a conservative president?
    As I've already stated, you underestimate the power of local medias and social pressure. A few states in the US are leftist, but a far bigger majority is central. Right now, homosexual marriage is allowed. Yet if Ted Cruz get elected, he'd simply go over the laws and switch it to state-to-state businesses. If you cannot see how dangerous it is to have someone who wants to flip the laws at will and remove human rights to people, I don't think you'll ever get the point.
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    A lot of the Trump hate does come off as fear of going from a comfortable "victim status" that can be exploited for sympathy and advantages in life, to actually being a victim of unfortunate life circumstances - such as being born in a poorer country than the USA and having to make a living there, or being born into a poor american family and having to grow up without a smartphone... victimhood is quite the contextual thing, geographically speaking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ117 View Post
    Spot on. This is exactly why Trump has become popular, also why I like him. He opened the debate that nobody else dared do, and look at him now, storming the polls.
    Trump is obviously in de facto opposition to SJW & Feminists but he has not actually really said anything about it other than say things about immigration and be incredibly 'un-pc' in his interactions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skavau View Post
    His socialism is basically mainstream across much of Western and Northern Europe.
    I would like to see exactly which socialist policies he plans to implement. Will they pass the Senate and Congress? I feel like he is a lot like Trump in as that: he has a lot of buzz words but really needs to flesh out his policies and tell us exactly what he plans to do.

    I would love to see a Sanders v Trump, socialist v capitalist election. It would be heated and exciting. I also think it is a debate this country needs to have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ117 View Post
    Don't speak for all of Europe. I disagree with you. I like Trump. He is a realist in a world of PC culture that has destroyed Western society.
    If he wins, I'd like to be there to witness your moment of revelation when its revealed Trump to be a lying sack of shit with a personality. Should be right about the time we start a war with someone. Probably Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom4u2 View Post
    As I've already stated, you underestimate the power of local medias and social pressure. A few states in the US are leftist, but a far bigger majority is central. Right now, homosexual marriage is allowed. Yet if Ted Cruz get elected, he'd simply go over the laws and switch it to state-to-state businesses. If you cannot see how dangerous it is to have someone who wants to flip the laws at will and remove human rights to people, I don't think you'll ever get the point.
    So we go back to allowing the states to make decisions based on what the people of that state want?

    How horrible.

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    I actually want Trump to win just to see his supporters get angry 6 months in

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alydael View Post
    I would like to see exactly which socialist policies he plans to implement. Will they pass the Senate and Congress? I feel like he is a lot like Trump in as that: he has a lot of buzz words but really needs to flesh out his policies and tell us exactly what he plans to do.

    I would love to see a Sanders v Trump, socialist v capitalist election. It would be heated and exciting. I also think it is a debate this country needs to have.
    And it will be amusing to watch capitalism defeat socialism.

    Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by negawonka View Post
    Or you agree that climate change is blown out of proportion, is likely not man-made in origin, and was sensationalized (by who I don't care) to sell "green" products. I was not aware of this quote but while I am in favor of things being environmentally friendly and us moving towards being more "green", I do not think that if we don't anything bad will happen.
    So you think that the idea was invented by China, do you?

    You think that someone who says that is not touched in the head?

    As for the other quote, I am pretty vanilla on the treatment of the families of terrorists at this point. One part of me thinks that no innocent person should be mistreated or "taken out", but the other says that they could have always turned their kids in. You do have a responsibility as a parent to turn your child in or stop them yourself if they are planning to blow themselves and others up after all. Like I said, I am pretty vanilla on it.
    We're not even talking about families who know their children are going too far, we're talking about relatives who potentially may know nothing about what their kid has done or who were powerless to stop them.

    It is disturbing to me that you are apathetic towards the prospect of the US murdering family members of terrorists just to get to them. That is what nihilist cults like ISIS do to their enemies, not the most standard bearer for first-world civilisation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by provaporous View Post
    i disagree, both Hillary and Sanders are unelectable, one is under FBI investigation and the other is literally a socialist who seems to have missed the last 10 times the world has tried socialism on a wide scale and failed horribly. Trump will win, dispute all the lies about him, while he may be a brash loud rude person, he is right about a lot of things.

    that's your opinion to have. so far none of those investigations have brought anything up agasint Clinton. and sanders is hardly a fringe candidate. Trump offers policies that aren't even constitutional or within the presidents authority, and is inconsistent on numerous issues. the only people who buy his bullshit are the 40-44% of the GOP, that's not going to win any genreal election, hell it might not even get him the nomination.

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    Trump is so far ahead because he's a well known and divisive media figure who decided to run in quite possible one of the weakest GOP lineups of all time. They split their votes.

    If the Democratic field had 5 or 6 candidates running Bernie Sanders would be reasonably ahead too - their numbers would split, his wouldn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    And it will be amusing to watch capitalism defeat socialism.

    Again.
    America will always be capitalist, your country is far from socialist

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    So we go back to allowing the states to make decisions based on what the people of that state want?

    How horrible.
    Actually, it's been proven time after time that because a majority want something doesn't mean it's not bad or wrong. But the issue is with the election system itself at that point, which is unrepresentative.

    Also, a lot of people will vote for a figure, not for a politic, which is even worse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skavau View Post
    Trump is so far ahead because he's a well known and divisive media figure who decided to run in quite possible one of the weakest GOP lineups of all time. They split their votes.

    If the Democratic field had 5 or 6 candidates running Bernie Sanders would be reasonably ahead too - their numbers would split, his wouldn't.
    Democratic field might as well rename itself the Socialist Party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jotaux View Post
    What has he said that is actually viable?
    That Cruz lies all the time.


    Rubio is probably the 'least worst' candidate the right is currently pandering. Cruz is a bit too far right wing for folks in the US, and too religion oriented. Trump is a reactionary, and while incredibly entertaining to watch, I don't want someone like that in the oval office. Jeb seems a bit too mild mannered to me, and there are enough voters who recall GWB unfavorably to probably not help him much.

    I don't see anyone on the right actually winning the big game at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuckSparkles View Post
    So we go back to allowing the states to make decisions based on what the people of that state want?

    How horrible.
    Yea, it kinda was.
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