Former Abortionist Uses Medical Animations To Show What Happens To Baby and Mother

[Oktoberfest]

If you support Abortion, do you actually know what is involved in it? Many dont. They just hear Womens Rights and they cast their support to it.

If you support Abortion, then have the courage to watch the man who has performed over 1,200 of them explain to exactly what is involved. If you have the courage to back up what you speak. A lot of people blindly support it and know nothing about it.

[Cerus]

Just because it looks like a person, doesn't mean it is self conscious.

Same can be said for most people.

Ps. Newborns aren't even self aware. But I'm sure you'd agree that killing a newborn baby is wrong.

[Revi]

Not everyone who supports abortion rights supports 2nd trimester abortions. I don't.

[Sky High]

yeah, still don't care, not my choice to make either way.

[Aggrophobic]

Whats the point you're trying to make?

[Deleted]

Either that or bring a child into loveless poverty that spirals further and further into oblivion.
What joy is there for a child to be forced into living a life knowing he will never experience parental love or care?

[Oktoberfest]

Just because it looks like a person, doesn't mean it is self conscious.

You mean like this? Born at only 21 weeks.


http://www.canada.com/topics/bodyand...c-b6ca80f61bdc

Eighteen years ago, he was struggling to live.

The world's most premature baby is now a student living for the first time away from the parents who went to extremes to bring him into the world.
"I feel good and I'm happy that I survived," says James, who was born a staggering 128 days prematurely.
"I'm lucky that I have parents who cared so much."

Weighing just 1 lb. 6 oz at birth, James is now a stocky young man standing about 5'9" who enjoys rugby, diving and fast cars.
No one - except his parents Brenda and Jim - expected James to live 18 minutes, let alone 18 years.

Tears fill Brenda's eyes as she recalls the reaction of doctors and nurses when she went into labour at the beginning of her 21st week of pregnancy.
"They said, 'We have something to tell you. If you have the baby right now there's no possible chance that the baby will survive.' I said, 'You're wrong because mine is.'"
"This was the first time of many that we realized that we had to fight for what we believed in the whole way with James."


or this ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/ar...life-odds.html

[bewbew]

Just because it looks like a person, doesn't mean it is self conscious.

The arguments of abortion are not about self-conscience, but about where we draw the line of it being deemed a human. If it was about self-conscience, it would be valid to kill people who lack the brain capacity to be self-conscient.

Besides, argueing about concepts such "self-conscience" as a what is allowed or not to kill is stupid. Dolphins show strong signs of being self-conscient and we do not treat them as humans.

It's about HUMANITY, not conscience, and humanity doesn't depend on conscience. It's a factor, but even in it's absence, it's still a human.

Pretty awful stuff, by the way.

[Templar 331]

Whats the point you're trying to make?

To guilt trip people into thinking that all abortions=mid to late term abortions.

[Mormolyce]

This just in: surgical procedures are gory.

P.S. This is a 2nd trimester abortion, 91% of abortions in the US are performed in the 1st trimester.

[Oktoberfest]

See you guys need to tell yourselves lies to make you feel better about defending abortion.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...e-parents.html

[Templar 331]

See you guys need to tell yourselves lies to make you feel better about defending abortion.

Funny how you keep proving my point.

[runique]

Either that or bring a child into loveless poverty that spirals further and further into oblivion.
What joy is there for a child to be forced into living a life knowing he will never experience parental love or care?

I mean like I'm pro-choice at least in early pregnancy, but the way you responded just doesn't come off as discussion. "errmagerd every baby that you don't let be aborted cuz u think its wrong turns into a poor degenerate that doesn't have parents" isn't really a point you can discuss. Also, just to entertain you, some of unwanted pregnancies turn out that way. There are also a lot of other reasons to abort unwanted pregnancy.

The only thing I don't understand is why pro life vs pro choice is a religious vs secular debate. The Bible doesn't state when a fetus/baby becomes aware/ a human being. It's a grey area that goes beyond science and religion. I mean nobody can prove when life begins. I think a lot of people don't actually form opinions on their own about abortion, but just feel one way or another because they either are or aren't religious.

[Anonymous1038853]

Not everyone who supports abortion rights supports 2nd trimester abortions. I don't.

Yepp. This is where I stand, as well (Though would justify a late-term abortion in certain circumstances). Fascinating video, though.

[Sylv_]

Yep. Guilt tripping every sucker.
There is nothing wrong as long as you get the little shit outta to vaj before it actually starts to be a thing.
2nd tri is disgusting to do.

Plus, the last thing we need is more people on this planet.

[Very Tired]

Inner workings of medical procedure people out! More at 11!

Why this has anything to do with the legality of abortion, I wouldn't know.

[Deleted]

if you a male you could have had 1000 kids by the age of 40-50 think about it you killed like 1000 kids by not doign that
for a woman is like 20? so you killed like 19 kids if you have only 1 child

it very easy to be stupid its so easy !!!!!!! you prob think you achived a insane level of inteligence but we only had tehnologie for what 100-150 years this is nothing talk to me in 10 billion years

[Oktoberfest]

This just in: surgical procedures are gory.

P.S. This is a 2nd trimester abortion, 91% of abortions in the US are performed in the 1st trimester.

The baby's nervous system comes in at 5 weeks.

Btw since you imply there is nothing wrong with first trimester, I assume you have an issue with anything past that?

http://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-li...e/art-20045302

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Yep. Guilt tripping every sucker.
There is nothing wrong as long as you get the little shit outta to vaj before it actually starts to be a thing.
2nd tri is disgusting to do.

Plus, the last thing we need is more people on this planet.

If population control is such a huge concern for pro-abortion people, then why dont they just kill themselves? why ask others to sacrifice first?


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[Deleted]

Just look at a normal surgery and it's messy as hell. Ever heard the sound of someone using a electric saw or cracking ribs to get room to work open heart ?

It's messy to deal with the body. Couldn't care less if the fetus looks an semi alien/human hybrid or not.

[Very Tired]

If population control is such a huge concern for pro-abortion people, then why dont they just kill themselves? why ask others to sacrifice first?

Resorting to faulty arguments like this only make your side look weaker.