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    Australian Toddlers & Kindergarten kids to be taught about Sex & LGBT

    At what age should Kids be taught about Sex, Cross dressing & Gay people ?

    The Pro early childhood sexual education people (who are mostly Left wing), believe it
    will raise an awareness of the sexuality of other individuals and stop bullying at school etc.

    I tend to disagree. And think Kids should be Kids. And when they reach Puberty, then teach them this stuff.

    Do any other countries amongst MMO members teach Kindergarteners about Sex & LGBT ?
    Or is Australia all alone with this crazy lefty policy.?

    I keep thinking about that South Park episode with Mr Garrison after hearing about this .


    Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/national/201...230ggtilDzB.99

    TODDLERS will be taught about sex, sexuality and cross-dressing in a controversial national program being rolled out at childcare centres and kindergartens next month.

    Educators will be encouraged to use dress-ups to explain cross-dressing to kids and may even take group tours of the opposite sex’s toilets as part of the Start Early initiative.

    Teachers will use material provided by Early Childhood Australia, and books such as the book Children’s Sexual Development and Behaviour: Pants Aren’t Rude, by Pam Linke.

    Suggestions in the book include teaching about sexuality in a positive way as a healthy part of life, ensuring children aren’t forced to kiss anyone they don’t want to and letting children know that “all parts of their body are good”.

    Early Childhood Australia spokeswoman Clare McHugh said the program would reduce domestic violence because “rigid views on gender” were associated with violence and domestic violence.

    “Children are sexual beings and it’s a strong part of their identity, and it is linked to their values and respect,” she said.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Nice title.
    That's what I get for jumping the gun.
    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    TODDLERS will be taught about sex, sexuality and cross-dressing in a controversial national program being rolled out at childcare centres and kindergartens next month.

    Educators will be encouraged to use dress-ups to explain cross-dressing to kids and may even take group tours of the opposite sex’s toilets as part of the Start Early initiative.

    Teachers will use material provided by Early Childhood Australia, and books such as the book Children’s Sexual Development and Behaviour: Pants Aren’t Rude, by Pam Linke.

    Suggestions in the book include teaching about sexuality in a positive way as a healthy part of life, ensuring children aren’t forced to kiss anyone they don’t want to and letting children know that “all parts of their body are good”.

    Early Childhood Australia spokeswoman Clare McHugh said the program would reduce domestic violence because “rigid views on gender” were associated with violence and domestic violence.

    “Children are sexual beings and it’s a strong part of their identity, and it is linked to their values and respect,” she said.
    So is this from another article then OP? Because none of these sentences are found from your link.
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    Here is another article from an Australian Conservative about the issue.

    http://www.outinperth.com/prue/

    The original link is part of Premium content and you need a subscription to access it.

    Social Commentator Prue MacSween has hit out at the creators of a educational program that aims to teach kids about diversity calling for them to be arrested.

    Yesterday the Herald Sun featured a story highlighting a program in kindergartens that will feature dress-ups and address rigid views of gender.

    This morning Ms MacSween appeared on the breakfast TV program ‘Sunrise’.

    Host Andrew O’Keefe said he couldn’t understand why there is a perpetual focus on the tiny minute little aspects of much larger programs.

    “I’m glad there is!” MacSween said, “I think these minuscule little programs are disgustingly malicious and dangerous.”

    Ms MacSween said she would like to “round up” the people who wrote the program and have them incarcerated.

    “I’d like to round-up all these leftie ideologues who sit in their Chardonnay sipping offices and dream up these ridiculous ideas, which I think are child abuse. I would like to put these bloody people in jail.” Ms MacSween said.

    Ms MacSween said education should focus on reading, writing and arithmetic.

    The other panelist on the show Gretel Kileen said the media reports on the program had been sensationalist and were honing in on the cross dressing element.

    “My son dressed as a boiled egg when he was a kindergarten!” Ms Kileen exclaimed, before arguing that traditional fairy tales could potentially do more psychological damage to children, noting she was brought up to believe a Charming Prince would appear to solve all her problems.

    Ms Kileen defended the program saying it was just about teaching about difference, while Ms MacSween said the diversity programs were “stupid” and created by “leftie wankers” and “card carrying socialists”.

    This afternoon a spokesperson for Early Childhood Australia denied the program was about sex education for toddlers . Carolin Wenzel told ninemsn the program was not about sex education or gender identity and was designed as a long term violence prevention program.

    Early Childhood Australia CEO said the program had nothing to do with sex education.

    “Start Early is a free online program to help early childhood educators explore how everyday behaviours and attitudes shape young children’s relationships for life,” CEO Sam Page said. “It’s about starting early to preventing domestic and family violence in the long term.

    “There are no plans to roll out programs in kindergartens or pre-schools about cross-dressing or sex education. It’s about teaching children to respect each other.”
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    My parents let me read a book for children called something like "How children are born". It was pretty explicit in details and described roughly, among other things, what sex is like - with schematic pictures. I was 4 y/o, I think. Doesn't seem to have affected me negatively.

    So, yeah, I don't see any issue with it. In fact, I think it is better to explain these things to kids before they reach puberty, so they don't experiment blindly, having a potential to harm themselves accidentally.
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    I'm not sure they would actually understand what it's about.

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    Ms Kileen defended the program saying it was just about teaching about difference, while Ms MacSween said the diversity programs were “stupid” and created by “leftie wankers” and “card carrying socialists”.
    Hahaha, I love my country.

    I also love that 'card carrying socialist' is still an insult because people are stupid.

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    This is just religious and bigoted twats trying to push their hate and dumbarse veiws onto children. This program is about teaching acceptance. People that opose this shouldn't be allowed to breed and push their hate on children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    This seems like a really bad idea. Mostly because children won't understand any of this.
    Yeah it's not like children go to school to learn things, oh wait.......
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    Might be reading this wrong but ..... to me it seems that what they want to do is to tell children that not all people are the same and that it is ok ? yes that include that *odd* man that they see down the local store in a dress or the 2 men / girls holding hands by the bus stop.

    i do not see anything about *so this is how bill and ted make love* videos.

    If this is done to make the next generations more ok with that we are not all the same and like the same things ...... that seems fine with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drungan View Post
    Might be reading this wrong but ..... to me it seems that what they want to do is to tell children that not all people are the same and that it is ok ? yes that include that *odd* man that they see down the local store in a dress or the 2 men / girls holding hands by the bus stop.

    i do not see anything about *so this is how bill and ted make love* videos.

    If this is done to make the next generations more ok with that we are not all the same and like the same things ...... that seems fine with me.
    This is exactly what it is in a bid to stop bullying at schools. The bigots and homophobes think it harns children. Hell one fucktard in Parliament said it opened to door to accepting pedophilia. These shits shouldn't be allowed to breed.
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    Clickbait title.

    Still, I firmly disagree with the idea of shielding children from reality so I would see no problem with it anyway. A child is ready to hear the answer to a question as soon as he or she is old enough to ask it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    This seems like a really bad idea. Mostly because children won't understand any of this.
    Then it won't do them any harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saninicus View Post
    Problem is adults don't think like kids. You think a 5 year old gives a shit about gender identity? Nope, because kids don't think like that
    This program is for more than 5 year olds
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    So far the only info i've seen two pages in to the thread, points to political groups making this seem way worse then what it is. What evidence and articles point to: A program that educates children at a young age that not everyone is different, and that's okay and shouldn't be a reason for harassment. What OP and political groups publishing these articles are saying: They're gonna teach toddlers comprehensive sex ed, all about sexual orientation and safe sex.

    Though it's pretty cool how many people post without doing any fact finding into the OP or any articles and quotes linked. Makes for riveting threads.
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    So young kids are not going to understand the meanings of these. Better teach it at school ages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    Then it won't do them any harm.
    It's a waste of resources that would be better aimed at an age where they can comprehend this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post

    I tend to disagree. And think Kids should be Kids. And when they reach Puberty, then teach them this stuff.
    I agree with this.

    I'd also be worried that kids that may have been able to grow up to be normal may end up gay if they are exposed to this at a very young age.

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    I got pregnant again when my daughter was five at which point i gave her a fairly detailed explanation about how sex works. Its only been a year but so far she hasn't displayed any negative side affects like getting involved with drugs or gangs or running off with an older man and getting her knocked up. Should i be expecting her to go off the rails anytime now now that she knows about the birds and the bees?
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    It's a waste of resources that would be better aimed at an age where they can comprehend this stuff.
    No. You know nothing of this fucking country. The waste of money is spending 230 fucking million in school fucking chaplains. They are paying 230 million dollars to put people that belive in invisible wizard in the sky in a place of education. It's fucking madness.

    This program was 7 million. I know which i would rather cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailswipe View Post
    I agree with this.

    I'd also be worried that kids that may have been able to grow up to be normal may end up gay if they are exposed to this at a very young age.
    Really? Are you that stupid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tailswipe View Post
    I agree with this.

    I'd also be worried that kids that may have been able to grow up to be normal may end up gay if they are exposed to this at a very young age.
    If you believe you can be made gay, or it's a choice, then honestly you could have used this education in question.
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    True, I was just bored and tired but you are correct.

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    millennials were the kids of the 9/11 survivors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    I'd also be worried that kids that may have been able to grow up to be normal may end up severely confused about the way sexuality works if they are exposed to this at a very young age.
    What exactly is confusing?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linadra View Post
    If you believe you can be made gay, or it's a choice, then honestly you could have used this education in question.
    There is plenty of evidence that whether some one ends up gay is influenced by social factors and not just the nature of the person.

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