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    Quote Originally Posted by Smauldy View Post
    The irony is that the GOP has war criminals like Dick Cheney living as a free man.
    LOL that's fucking rich, Obama is just as much a war criminal is cheney with that logic or any president who's had military operations botch on their watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    If they're going to arrest her can they just hurry the fuck up and do it already so we can get someone else in the Democrat primaries?
    Well, no. From their perspective that would be the point - either wait until so late in the process that the only possible alternative is the Socialist (who I don't think would be that bad, but I've no doubt the GOP thinks would be an easy win), or until after Hillary is the nominee, and then indict her, in order to wound her on the road to November.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    Well, no. From their perspective that would be the point - either wait until so late in the process that the only possible alternative is the Socialist (who I don't think would be that bad, but I've no doubt the GOP thinks would be an easy win), or until after Hillary is the nominee, and then indict her, in order to wound her on the road to November.
    That is one thing I couldn't help but find someone amusing.

    The GOP think Sanders would be an easy win for them when by all accounts, he would be the easy win for the DNC as Hillaries supporters would still vote for him along with his own supporters and he even has some converts among the GOP crowd and all that assuming Trump doesn't win their primaries pushing even more his way.


    By all data given, Sanders would be the sure win in the general and Hillary would be the gamble but they think he would be the easy target.
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    Well there is some inconvenient information for the "indict Hillary" crowd.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-...-review-220580

    Douglas Welty, spokesman for the State inspector general’s office, said "partisan politics" have played no role in the investigation.
    "We are now reviewing the email practices of the current and last four Secretaries of State, not just Secretary Clinton," Welty added. "Any suggestion that the office is biased against any particular Secretary is completely false."
    So now it is an investigation of Kerry, Clinton, Rice, Powell and Albright. Sounds a lot more like a review of how email should be handled since its popularization than something that will result in criminal charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooked View Post
    Hillary is a crook, in other news water is wet.
    And yet your boy Trump is currently facing a class-action lawsuit over fraud and racketeering regarding his "university."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matchles View Post
    Well there is some inconvenient information for the "indict Hillary" crowd.

    http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-...-review-220580



    So now it is an investigation of Kerry, Clinton, Rice, Powell and Albright. Sounds a lot more like a review of how email should be handled since its popularization than something that will result in criminal charges.
    That's what its always been, with an eye on the security of classified information; not in the "OMG, this is a crime!" sense, but in the "Wow, this was a dumb way to handle this sort of thing. What should we be doing instead?" and "Did we lose anything important to bad guys?"

    It's theoretically possible that charges will come out of it somewhere, especially if something really nastily illegal happens to pop up, but ultimately, its a security review, not a witch hunt. At least by the actual law enforcement involved - the GOP looks like an unfunny re-enactment of a certain skit from Mothy Python and the Holy Grail.
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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    She did what others - including Republicans - have done and maintained a private email server for work at a time when a work based system was Recommended, not mandatory.

    She further dealt with classified information...of which apparently none was marked as classified or secret, or which was marked as such years later.

    It further turns out that the "official" system had a reputation for not being secure.

    Other than the fact the Republicans want to give her a bad name and try to deflect attention away from the disaster zone of Trump-Cruz...is there a point to this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ringpriest View Post
    That's what its always been, with an eye on the security of classified information; not in the "OMG, this is a crime!" sense, but in the "Wow, this was a dumb way to handle this sort of thing. What should we be doing instead?" and "Did we lose anything important to bad guys?"

    It's theoretically possible that charges will come out of it somewhere, especially if something really nastily illegal happens to pop up, but ultimately, its a security review, not a witch hunt. At least by the actual law enforcement involved - the GOP looks like an unfunny re-enactment of a certain skit from Mothy Python and the Holy Grail.
    That may be what it is insofar as the State Dept IG is concerned, but that's not what it is according to the FBI.

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