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    German Ambassador to Turkey ordered to ministry of foreign affairs...

    ... over a satiric music video that aired on the NDR a couple of days ago.

    Tuesday, Martin Erdman, german ambassador to Turkey, was formally summoned to the ministry of foreign affairs, to answer for the showing of a music video with the title Erdowie, Erdowo, Erdogan, a spoof on Nena's Song "Irgendwie, Irgendwo, Irgendwann" (Somehow, somewhere, sometime).

    The lyrics read, among other harsh criticisms, "Er lebt auf großem Fuß, der Protz vom Bosporus" (He lives at large, the swank of Bosporus), referencing Erdogan's 1000 room palace built without permit in a reservation, and "Ein Journalist, der irgendwas verfasst, was Erdogan nicht passt, ist morgen schon im Knast" - A Journalist who writes a piece, to which Erdogan doesn't agree, will be imprisoned by tomorrow. Other articles of the Song attack his stance on womens rights and the use of police force, bombings of kurds, and mocking how he's forcing his will on the EU and germans chancelor Angela Merkel. IT compares his manner of speech to Mickey Mouse.

    All of this coincides witht the start of the process agains journalists Can Dündar and Erdem Gül. Not only the german ambassador has drawn Erdogans Ire, but also Britains Principal Officer Leigh Turner. Erdogan warned Turner on Sunday that "if this person is to continue their work in Turkey, it's only due to our generosity/gallantry and hospitality."

    Dündar and Gül are charged with espionage and selling state secrets after a documentory of the turkish secret service delivering weapons to unnamed islamic extremists in Syria. President Erdogan has personally raised charges, if sentenced they face life in prison. As a result of the criticism of diplomats the public is now excluded from the trial. Erdogan said, towards the critical diplomats, "This is not their country - this is Turkey. Diplomacy is subjected to propriety and manners."


    Sources: Spiegel Online (article in german)

    Just another event in a long chain of a small man desireing importance, and the turkish gouvernment fighting the principles of freedom of speech. A summons due to critical satire is highly unusual. Imagine the US ministery of foreign affairs would call in ambassadors everytime someone in the media mocked Trump or Obama. Quiet ridiculous to call in an ambassador towards such a frivolity.

    As a result of this, the group that made the satiric video has named Erdogan their employee of the month.
    Last edited by Skulltaker; 2016-03-28 at 09:17 PM.

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    Thank you for linking that video ^^

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    Haha, thank you, this is great.

    Turkey is never going to join the EU under Erdogan and for good reason.

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    According to the french news agancy AFP Erdogan now demands of the german gouvernment to forbid broadcasting the satire program. This is getting interesting.

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    The Sultan does not wish to be made fun of.

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    That video is brilliant, now I can't get the tune out of my head.
    Funny stuff.

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    The same show made fun of Poland for not towing the pro-German line of the previous government. Why is German national media allowed to meddle in the affairs of sovereign states?

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    This is one of the rare cases where our forced 17.5€/monthly shitmediamoney is well worth it .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    The same show made fun of Poland for not towing the pro-German line of the previous government. Why is German national media allowed to meddle in the affairs of sovereign states?
    It's just satire! Everything is allowed in satire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    The same show made fun of Poland for not towing the pro-German line of the previous government. Why is German national media allowed to meddle in the affairs of sovereign states?
    Asking dumbass questions is your thing isn't it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    According to the french news agancy AFP Erdogan now demands of the german gouvernment to forbid broadcasting the satire program. This is getting interesting.
    Oh yeah, this IS interesting.
    Restricting our freedom of speech would just be another step toward the inevitable civil war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    The same show made fun of Poland for not towing the pro-German line of the previous government. Why is German national media allowed to meddle in the affairs of sovereign states?
    Because we can.

    Dude, it's satire. They don't meddle in anything, they make fun off everything.

    Couple of minutes ago they posted this picture:



    "You either remove this video or I delete the internet!"

    Small play on words in the german version, as 'löschen' is used in the sense of 'deleting files' aswell as 'putting out a fire'
    Last edited by Skulltaker; 2016-03-29 at 01:29 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    The same show made fun of Poland for not towing the pro-German line of the previous government. Why is German national media allowed to meddle in the affairs of sovereign states?
    "I don't understand what satire is!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    The same show made fun of Poland for not towing the pro-German line of the previous government. Why is German national media allowed to meddle in the affairs of sovereign states?
    In satire everything is fair game.

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    He needs more enemies. Russia ain't enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    According to the french news agancy AFP Erdogan now demands of the german gouvernment to forbid broadcasting the satire program. This is getting interesting.
    He can demand all he wants, the german gouvernment couldn't comply even if they wanted to.

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    This is slightly escalating. German gouvernment is being criticized now for not responding to turkish critique in any way so far.

    In the meantime the makes of the video have rereleased it with turkish subtitles.
    Last edited by Skulltaker; 2016-03-29 at 06:42 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skulltaker View Post
    This is slightly escalating. German gouvernment is being criticized now for not responding to turkish critique in any way so far.
    How to respond ? I would guess our Ambassador already invoked Article 5 of Basic Law ( free speech and freedom of press and broadcastings ) to Erdogan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ranzino View Post
    How to respond ? I would guess our Ambassador already invoked Article 5 of Basic Law ( free speech and freedom of press and broadcastings ) to Erdogan.
    Turkish gouvernment apperantly throws a lot of demands towards Berlin, and they remain silent. Of course there is no easy way out for them. Back turkish claims and they lose even further standing with the people and the media, if they do the right thing and defend freedom of the press they will lose standing with Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberowl View Post
    Haha, thank you, this is great.

    Turkey is never going to join the EU under Erdogan and for good reason.
    Trust me, we don't want to with him in power. And in some cases, even if he wasn't.
    Fod Sparta los wuth, ahrk okaaz gekenlok kruziik himdah, dinok fent kos rozol do daan wah jer do Samos. Ahrk haar do Heracles fent motaad, fah strunmah vonun fent yolein ko yol
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    Lol #WeloveErdogan hashtag trending in germany (and it's not a satirical thing... its real this time).

    Has Erdogan learned from putins paid troll army? Many accounts with turkish names that write good stuff about him in german. They call us nazi , imho they are free to leave this country if that satire video offends their sultan so much.

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    In the meantime, the german Ambassador to Turkey has issuded a statement, saying that freedom of the press and freedom of speech are valuable goods worthy of preservation.

    And the #WeLoveErdogan has been deleted by Twitter due to to many controversial tweets. Erdogan, being shut down trying to immitate Putin within hours. Priceless. His trolls now started #TwitterCensoredEdrogan.
    Last edited by Skulltaker; 2016-03-29 at 09:51 PM.

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