First Gaming Build - Need Help

[SunDragon]

Hey everyone,

I plan to switch from console gaming to PC. My current desktop is low range and my video card is somewhere between life and death.
So I decided to build a PC by myself. This is the first time I'm doing this and thus I appreciate all the help I can get.


These are the parts I chose for now:

PCPartPicker part list: de. pcpartpicker. com/p/t239xr

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€238.01 Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler (€87.84 Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€176.71 Mindfactory)
Memory: G Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (€74.58 Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€86.00)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€75.72 Mindfactory)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card (€656.85 Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (€155.83 Mindfactory)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (€80.43 Mindfactory)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For €0.00)

Total: €1631.97 (1584.03€ as shipping is only charged once)



Right now i own a 1080p monitor and plan to change to a 1440p monitor in about a year or two. I know the 980ti is overkill for 1080p, but I want to be able to play current and future relases at 1080p 60fps with max settings for the next few years and don't want to necessarily buy a new card when I switch to 1440p.

If you don't think that this is a stupid plan and that I should choose a 970 instead: I can either buy a MSI GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB Video Card, as seen above, or a EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ for the the same price at another german retailer (Alternate). The posts i read are mixed whether MSi or EVGA is the better choice.

Furthermore I think I should maybe invest in a 750W power supply for future upgrades.

But before I deconstruct this build myself, I want to read what you guys have to say and learn from your experiences.


So, what do you think?

[Denpepe]

Those aio watercoolers are not better then a decent air cooler, and I would not recommend that graphics card, if you have to buy one now get a Radeon which will have better DX12 support which will help in the long run, or wait a couple months, supposedly new cards will launch around June/July.

Also for the HDD I would prefer Western digital, stay away from the corsair CX series of PSU's they are known to be bad, get Seasonic, EVGA, XFX or Superflower.

Also DDR4 memory at 2600 seems to be the sweetspot regarding price performance

[SunDragon]

I edited my partlist based on your advice:


PCPartPicker part list: de. pcpartpicker. com/p/6ctb4D

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€237.81 Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€38.84 Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€176.71 Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€74.84 Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€91.89 Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.62 Mindfactory)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 Fury X 4GB Video Card (€637.64 Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (€155.83 Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€129.32 Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For €0.00)

Total: €1597.50 (1541.57€)

I'm still not sure about the GPU. I don't intend to buy a card this summer and would rather wait for releases further down the line.

I didn't think of DX12 and just read about Nvidia's problems with it.
Do you think Nvidia can compensate for this disadvantage with their own driver updates?

[Denpepe]

Do you think Nvidia can compensate for this disadvantage with their own driver updates?

You can't compensate in software if the hardware is not there. From what I read Pascal should support async compute and cards are expected June/July-ish, maybe use your old one until then? It's still speculation on the new cards and until we can see a release announcement from Nvidia and some reviews/benchmarks it will stay that way.

Also a 750W gold PSU is overdoing it unless you plan to do SLI/crossfire in the future, newer cards are expected to consume less power then current ones, a good 550W bronze should be more than sufficient if you want to save a bit of money.

[SunDragon]

I changed my power supply back to the Corsair CX 600W I wanted to use before.

Whether I buy a new GPU in summer or not, I have to buy a new one now. As I said before, my current one is on the verge of death and is the worst part of my PC. Any kind of particle effect drops my fps below 15.
If I had the choice to use my old one until then, I'd gladly do it. Maybe I should buy a 970 or R9 390x now and buy the equivalent, when it arrives. It depends on price and performance of the new cards.

[Denpepe]

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/sea...s12ii620bronze

Should be better then the corsair CX line and even just a tad cheaper.

[SunDragon]

Thanks, I also thought about an EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold

If the next generation arrives in June/July, I could buy an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ and trade up, if it's available within 90 days after purchase.

[Kagthul]

I changed my power supply back to the Corsair CX 600W I wanted to use before.

Whether I buy a new GPU in summer or not, I have to buy a new one now. As I said before, my current one is on the verge of death and is the worst part of my PC. Any kind of particle effect drops my fps below 15.
If I had the choice to use my old one until then, I'd gladly do it. Maybe I should buy a 970 or R9 390x now and buy the equivalent, when it arrives. It depends on price and performance of the new cards.

Stay away from the CX series, theyre firecrackers.

What i might suggest for the GPU is to buy a GTX 950 or even a 750Ti, maybe even used, and use it for now, until Pascal/Polaris drop, and then pick up the best performance card you can. Also leaves you with a backup card for if anything goes wrong.

[SunDragon]

Stay away from the CX series, theyre firecrackers.

What i might suggest for the GPU is to buy a GTX 950 or even a 750Ti, maybe even used, and use it for now, until Pascal/Polaris drop, and then pick up the best performance card you can. Also leaves you with a backup card for if anything goes wrong.

Do you think the 980 Pascal equivalent will cost around 500€-600€ and be better than a 980ti? If so, I would buy a 960 for 189€. (only 30€ more than a 950, but with Rise of the Tomb Raider as a bonus)

[Kagthul]

Do you think the 980 Pascal equivalent will cost around 500€-600€ and be better than a 980ti? If so, I would buy a 960 for 189€. (only 30€ more than a 950, but with Rise of the Tomb Raider as a bonus)

Its impossible to say for sure, but the numbers that have been pretty consistent are a 25% or more gain over current cards at each price point. So, a 980 equivalent would be about 25% more powerful than the 980, at roughly the same price.

Im not really sure what the cards cost in Euros, as im from the US and dont really follow the EU market.

[Aori]

Thanks, I also thought about an EVGA SuperNOVA GS 650W 80+ Gold

If the next generation arrives in June/July, I could buy an EVGA GeForce GTX 980 Ti Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+ and trade up, if it's available within 90 days after purchase.

You were already dumping huge dollars in your rig, don't skimp out on the PSU. Pay the extra bucks and get a Supernova G2 750.

[SunDragon]

I found a shop with Supernova G2 750 in stock.
If there isn't another problem with my build, I think I made my decision.


Thanks for your help.

[Evildeffy]

I found a shop with Supernova G2 750 in stock.
If there isn't another problem with my build, I think I made my decision.


Thanks for your help.

Give us a final overview of your exact build you are prepared to buy right now.

[SunDragon]

PCPartPicker part list: de. pcpartpicker. com/p/xsvFwP


CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€237.11 Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€38.84 Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€176.71 Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€74.84 Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€91.89 Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.62 Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card (€197.86 Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (€155.83 Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€117.50 heute-kaufen. de)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For €0.00)

Total: €1145.20€


Buying my "real" card in summer, increases my overall budget. Should I switch to an i7 6700K, as future games could use multithread CPUs more efficiently?
Furthermore I could use it for video-editing and animation.

[Artorius]

Should I switch to an i7 6700K, as future games could use multithread CPUs more efficiently?
Furthermore I could use it for video-editing and animation.

No. If you want to switch to something then go with the 5820K or wait for the new Broadwell-E ones.

[SunDragon]

No. If you want to switch to something then go with the 5820K or wait for the new Broadwell-E ones.

Ok, thanks for the advice. I'll stick with the 6600k.

[Artorius]

Ok, thanks for the advice. I'll stick with the 6600k.

The 6700K is too expensive for what it gives to you on top of the 6600K, the 5820K is at the ~same price point and gives you 2 more real cores.

So yeah you get the idea.

[SunDragon]

The 6700K is too expensive for what it gives to you on top of the 6600K, the 5820K is at the ~same price point and gives you 2 more real cores.

So yeah you get the idea.

I'll wait for the new Broadwell-E ones, if I want to upgrade.

If noone has an idea how to improve my build further, I'll order in about an hour.

[Evildeffy]

The 6700K is too expensive for what it gives to you on top of the 6600K, the 5820K is at the ~same price point and gives you 2 more real cores.

So yeah you get the idea.

Not in Europe it doesn't.

The 5820K and the 6700K are actually different here in both mobo and CPU price so there is a tangible difference to the US.

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PCPartPicker part list: de. pcpartpicker. com/p/xsvFwP


CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€237.11 Mindfactory)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€38.84 Mindfactory)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€176.71 Mindfactory)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€74.84 Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€91.89 Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.62 Mindfactory)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card (€197.86 Mindfactory)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (€155.83 Mindfactory)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€117.50 heute-kaufen. de)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For €0.00)

Total: €1145.20€


Buying my "real" card in summer, increases my overall budget. Should I switch to an i7 6700K, as future games could use multithread CPUs more efficiently?
Furthermore I could use it for video-editing and animation.

Will you be spending a lot of time in video editing/animation?

Real card meaning Polaris or Pascal so that's good.

[Artorius]

I'll wait for the new Broadwell-E ones, if I want to upgrade.

If noone has an idea how to improve my build further, I'll order in about an hour.

Broadwell-E, just like Haswell-E, goes at LGA2011 though, not the same socket.

Not in Europe it doesn't.
The 5820K and the 6700K are actually different here in both mobo and CPU price so there is a tangible difference to the US.

It's still only a 40 EUR difference so it's arguably justified.