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    Quote Originally Posted by Artorius View Post
    Broadwell-E, just like Haswell-E, goes at LGA2011 though, not the same socket.
    Actually this is incorrect, Broadwell-E uses the same LGA2011v3 with X99 platform socket as Haswell-E.
    It is Ivy Bridge-E (4820K, 4930K and 4960X) that uses LGA2011 socket with X79 platform.

    Quote Originally Posted by Artorius View Post
    It's still only a 40 EUR difference so it's arguably justified.
    Taking a quick comparison between same quality/model CPUs and Mobos from the Netherlands (cheapest in Europe, Germany being very close) shows the following:

    CPUs:
    Intel Core i7-5820K - € 399,-
    Intel Core i7-6700K - € 347,45

    Mobos:
    ASUS X99 Sabertooth - € 349,-
    ASUS Z170 Sabertooth Mk. 1 - € 247,-

    Together that's a price delta of: € 153,55 or $ 175,13

    Now you could say I didn't take the comparison with the same mobo's of the OP... fair enough but it was to illustrate a point.
    If I compare it between 2 of the same models for different chipsets I would compare these as the closest to the M5 edition he selected:

    MSI Z170a Gaming M7 - € 209,-
    MSI X99A GAMING 7 - € 266,50

    Which shrinks the total delta down to: € 109,05 or $ 124,36
    Still a big delta some people don't have and this difference becomes larger in countries other than NL/DE.

    Edit:
    Intel Core i7-6700K - Mindfactory.de - € 339,15
    Intel Core i7-5820K - Mindfactory.de - € 381,39

    MSI Z170A Gaming M7 - Mindfactory.de - € 198,02
    MSI X99A Gaming 7 - Mindfactory.de - € 259,11

    Even from Mindfactory.de that's still a total delta of: € 103,33 or $ 117,84
    The delta, whilst worth it in general, is still there and not all can afford another 103 euros.
    Last edited by Evildeffy; 2016-04-11 at 12:02 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    And I think you missed the point. The guy is talking about buying a Z170 now and upgrading to a E chip later. That means he'd also have to buy a new mobo when he makes the jump. If he's going to get one of those processors at some point it doesn't make sense to get a Z170 processor and mobo now. Thanks for clarifying that it's on v3 though(which really doesn't have much affect on the point).
    Actually no the guy is not, it's Artorius which brought that up.
    The OP only spoke about going to a i7-6700K to which Artorius brought up the i7-5820K.

    And my clarification was to Artorius stating that Broadwell-E would not be on LGA2011v3 to which I corrected him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    And if you can't afford an extra 100 euro on a 1600 euro tab, save a little more. If it would literally be financially crippling? You shouldn't be spending as much as you are in the first place.
    I do agree on this bit but the OP has consistently remained around € 1600,- ... perhaps that is the utmost of what he can throw out, I dunno.
    Some people have hard limits either they themselves set or others for them so it is always best to assume it is and ask later if it can go higher.

    Which in this case I did but no reply as of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evildeffy View Post
    And my clarification was to Artorius stating that Broadwell-E would not be on LGA2011v3 to which I corrected him.
    No you didn't. That's exactly what I said lol.

    OP made a 6600K Z170 build and then said that he'd upgrade to Broadwell-E. I quoted with:
    Quote Originally Posted by Artorius
    Broadwell-E, just like Haswell-E, goes at LGA2011 though, not the same socket.
    Which is telling him that Broadwell-E, just like Haswell-E, goes at LGA2011. Not the same socket as the 6600K.
    Last edited by Artorius; 2016-04-11 at 03:04 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Artorius View Post
    No you didn't. That's exactly what I said lol.

    OP made a 6600K Z170 build and then said that he'd upgrade to Broadwell-E. I quoted with:

    Which is telling him that Broadwell-E, just like Haswell-E, goes at LGA2011. Not the same socket as the 6600K.
    Reading through the thread again I see you first suggesting it and didn't notice him saying the "I'll wait for the Broadwell-E".
    So that is me being blind... though in my defence he only even mentioned Broadwell-E after you started with it! *shifts blame*

    That would make your statement make a lot more sense, since I didn't see that post somehow.

    Still a price delta however!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Evildeffy View Post
    Will you be spending a lot of time in video editing/animation?
    Not much, I'm only starting to teach it myself.


    Quote Originally Posted by Evildeffy View Post
    he only even mentioned Broadwell-E after you started with it! *shifts blame*
    That's right! I was and still am happy with my 6600k until Artorius came along and talked about Broadwell-E. Shame on you.

    I'll stick with the 6600k. If I buy a new CPU (and Motherboard) it will be several years down the line.^^


    My final build is:

    PCPartPicker part list: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/FZsfK8
    Price breakdown by merchant: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/FZsfK8/by_merchant/

    CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€240.69 @ Mindfactory)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€64.88 @ Mindfactory)
    Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€176.60 @ Mindfactory)
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (€74.84 @ Mindfactory)
    Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€91.89 @ Mindfactory)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€54.62 @ Mindfactory)
    Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 960 4GB Video Card (€212.08 @ Mindfactory)
    Case: be quiet! Silent Base 800 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case (€120.84 @ Mindfactory)
    Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€112 @ heute-kaufen)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (Purchased For €0.00)

    Total: €1148.44


    Thanks to all of you and especially Miyagie who helped me outside of this thread.

    I ordered the parts yesterday evening. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to be at home when the parts arrive and deliveries sometimes disappear in my neigbourhood.
    Last edited by SunDragon; 2016-04-11 at 01:41 PM.

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