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    Quote Originally Posted by Muxtar View Post
    Well, it is not some ordinary russian bank, it is russian state bank, which is tightly connected to Putin himself. And this bank hires lobbiyng firm whose CEOs are close to Clinton couple. Seems simple enough to gather all the pieces.
    still straws, and as usual lacking proof.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibito View Post
    And how does this relate to Clinton lol? You seem to think 2 wrongs make 1 right.
    To be fair it has about as much to do with Mrs. Clinton as this article.
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  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    still straws, and as usual lacking proof.
    Hillary gets money from russian Putin's (basically) bank, and it is lacking proof. Ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    We shall see.

    Meanwhile the Democrat frontrunner (yes, she is) is corruption incarnate.
    So my options are to put either a snake in the oval office or a blind, rabid wolf.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MurlocDemonHunter View Post
    So my options are to put either a snake in the oval office or a blind, rabid wolf.
    Pretty much, yes. My sympathies.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Muxtar View Post
    Hillary gets money from russian Putin's (basically) bank, and it is lacking proof. Ok.
    Except thats not what is happening.

    russian bank hires Washington lobbyist firm that has done business with Clinton in the past, is not a "russian bank giving Clinton money", how much you want to bet the same lobbyist firm has done business with major GOP politicians as well?

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    You won't find a Russian bank giving money to Bernie Sanders. You won't find an American bank giving money to Bernie Sanders either, for that matter, and for good reason.

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    Given the past history of Clinton's comments on Russia and Putin, I seeeeeeeeeriously doubt that she is someone Kremlin should put their stakes on. I would think Trump would be a better candidate for Kremlin, since he has already said many warm words towards Putin and promised close interaction with Russia, in case he wins the elections.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hemak View Post
    she is backed by Soros
    Never understood the big bugaboo about Soros.

    The man helped toppled eight Communist dictatorships. If he'd back right-wing policies, he'd be deified by the Republicans.

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    American elections is at the lowest point of it's history. Having to chose between a fascist, a corrupt and a populist...

    Looks like latin america elections.

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    hopefully bernie brings it up in the next debate
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    Quote Originally Posted by May90 View Post
    Given the past history of Clinton's
    If you really look at the history of the Clintons, it seems like there is just so much 'smoke' that it is statistically impossible for there to not be any 'fire'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venant View Post
    If you really look at the history of the Clintons, it seems like there is just so much 'smoke' that it is statistically impossible for there to not be any 'fire'
    Her position on Russia, Putin and Kremlin has been pretty consistent since, at least, 2000 or so. Doubt she is going to change her mind suddenly after being elected.
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  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    Except thats not what is happening.

    russian bank hires Washington lobbyist firm that has done business with Clinton in the past, is not a "russian bank giving Clinton money", how much you want to bet the same lobbyist firm has done business with major GOP politicians as well?
    We don't have any data concerning GOP and russian banks/other structures close to regime - yet.
    Needless to say that Putin wants to get out of sanctions asap, because his economics heading for the abyss day by day w/o western loan money. So it is logical that he needs to have loyal (wo)men in the head of western countries for them to cancel these sanctions. And most powerful western country is... right, USA. And most probable winner of coming presidental elections is... right, Hillary. Simple as that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PragmaticGamer View Post
    Never understood the big bugaboo about Soros.

    The man helped toppled eight Communist dictatorships. If he'd back right-wing policies, he'd be deified by the Republicans.
    I think it's that Republicans know, beyond the shadow of a doubt, that scummy far-right selfish billionaires like the Kochs back their party, while encouraging its worst elements - and that deep down, they're really not comfortable with their party serving as a gigantic sock-puppet for some of the worst elements of the one-percent. But it's not like they, personally, can stop their leaders from selling out to the Kochs and their ilk; so instead, the look over at the Democrats and the left in general, find Soros a nominally "left" billionaire, and tell themselves "See, the Democrats/liberals/progressives do it too, so we're not any worse than they are". So whining about Soros (who certainly isn't above criticism) is a sort of transference - it's what they do to avoid the cognitive dissonance of letting crazed right-wingnut members of the 1% pull their party's strings (often directly against the wishes/interests of its members).
    "In today’s America, conservatives who actually want to conserve are as rare as liberals who actually want to liberate. The once-significant language of an earlier era has had the meaning sucked right out of it, the better to serve as camouflage for a kleptocratic feeding frenzy in which both establishment parties participate with equal abandon" (Taking a break from the criminal, incompetent liars at the NSA, to bring you the above political observation, from The Archdruid Report.)

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