Why is Democracy Spring Getting ZERO Attention?

[Dsc]

Because we are a Constitutional Republic.

EVERYTHING the Left promised it didn't deliver and instead failed miserably at.
( Obama's presidency is a failure)
Poverty UP.
Economy Down.
Least Transparent Administration in History, who incidently Lived Like King and Queen
Constitutional rights trampled.
HATED worldwide, despite being loved prior.
National Security at all time Low
Leftist states becoming insolvent. ( Illinois for example)
Insurance companys announcing Obamacare, despite lowering quality of care, increasing customer costs, is causing insurance companys to go belly up.
Propagation of Nukes in the Middle east.
NORKS and Iran unchecked, in fact Paid to progress.


The entire thing, all of the promises. were empty and are broken at our feet.

People are PISSED.

[TrumpIsPresident]

Because if she's the nominee, the other possible options are to vote for Donald "I'm gonna piss away trillions building a useless wall!" Trump, Ted "Heil Jesus!" Cruz, or John "I'm not completely insane!" Kasich.

Useless wall.

If it saves one women from being raped by an illegal invader...
If it saves one kid from being molested by an illegal invader...
If it saves one person from being murdered by an illegal invader...

...its worth every fucking penny.

But that's inconsequential because it will pay for itself in our lifetime.

The fiscal burden of this illegal invasion costs us hundreds of billions of dollars annually.

The money it saves future generations will fund everything America needs from new roads and bridges, to saving social security, to paying for college tuition.

[antelope591]

Because we are a Constitutional Republic.

EVERYTHING the Left promised it didn't deliver and instead failed miserably at.
( Obama's presidency is a failure)
Poverty UP.
Economy Down.
Least Transparent Administration in History, who incidently Lived Like King and Queen
Constitutional rights trampled.
HATED worldwide, despite being loved prior.
National Security at all time Low
Leftist states becoming insolvent. ( Illinois for example)
Insurance companys announcing Obamacare, despite lowering quality of care, increasing customer costs, is causing insurance companys to go belly up.
Propagation of Nukes in the Middle east.
NORKS and Iran unchecked, in fact Paid to progress.


The entire thing, all of the promises. were empty and are broken at our feet.

People are PISSED.

Except everything you said was false and Obama has very high approval ratings for being at this point in his presidency...keep drinking the kool aid doe

[Nadiru]

Some of them got arrested on purpose. They call it civil disobedience. I think they thought if people got arrested maybe the media would pay attention.

800 people isn't civil disobedience. That's like a sporting event gotten rowdy. If you want to destroy the US' ability to imprison people, you need closer to 8,000,000 people.

[Felya]

Useless wall.

If it saves one women from being raped by an illegal invader...
If it saves one kid from being molested by an illegal invader...
If it saves one person from being murdered by an illegal invader...

...its worth every fucking penny.

But that's inconsequential because it will pay for itself in our lifetime.

The fiscal burden of this illegal invasion costs us hundreds of billions of dollars annually.

The money it saves future generations will fund everything America needs from new roads and bridges, to saving social security, to paying for college tuition.

It wouldn't do any of that. Those who want to commit crimes will do so by any means necessary, including paying drug cartels to be smuggled in. Those who are legitimately trying to escape the drug cartels, are the only ones you are stoping. It also wouldn't save money, but cost billions to build and then the same amount over every 5 years to maintain. It gives criminals, like coyotes, more power, not less...

[Nadiru]

It wouldn't do any of that. Those who want to commit crimes will do so by any means necessary, including paying drug cartels to be smuggled in. Those who are legitimately trying to escape the drug cartels, are the only ones you are stoping. It also wouldn't save money, but cost billions to build and then the same amount over every 5 years to maintain. It gives criminals, like coyotes, more power, not less...

You've got no idea whether it would do or not do any of that because you're not the Oracle at Delphi or a psychic. I could posit that China's about to undergo a severe financial collapse with growth rates in the 0-2% range, and I could probably cite more academic works supporting my position than you could for yours, but I'd still just be guessing about the future.

[Tsimp]

I know people will bitch about Chomsky, but check out these videos. The first is Chomsky's Manufacturing Consent, the second is The Century of Self, about Edward Bernays. Both are very interesting documentaries if you can handle receiving opposing viewpoints without exploding into a faux rage or something. They are pretty long, but will give a very good idea about why things like this don't get covered by the American media.

Manufacturing Consent
http://www.veoh.com/watch/v6573840ByBBKGNt

The Century of Self

[Grummgug]

I've yet to hear a way to get money out of politics. How do you do it?

What you are complaining about is huge donors giving a bunch of money to a candidate in order to promote their election. Ok, if you ban that, then those donors can just turn around and buy television stations and movie production companies and change the programming to promote the same thing. There is no difference between a candidate buying an ad to promote his ideas and the owner of a television network providing TV shows and News shows that promote those same ideas.

The Koch brothers could (instead of donating money to candidates) just buy Showtime, HBO, AMC, ABC, NBC, and CBS and change the way your favorite shows are written to support right wing ideas. They don't do that NOW because its easier to just give money directly to candidates. But if you block the Koch brothers from giving money to candidates, they might buy TV networks and suddenly the Walking Dead becomes a story about how evil left wingers created the zombies and how Darryl Dixon and Rick Grimes are heroic right wingers fighting against what the left wing has done.

[Varitok]

I've yet to hear a way to get money out of politics. How do you do it?

What you are complaining about is huge donors giving a bunch of money to a candidate in order to promote their election. Ok, if you ban that, then those donors can just turn around and buy television stations and movie production companies and change the programming to promote the same thing. There is no difference between a candidate buying an ad to promote his ideas and the owner of a television network providing TV shows and News shows that promote those same ideas.

The Koch brothers could (instead of donating money to candidates) just buy Showtime, HBO, AMC, ABC, NBC, and CBS and change the way your favorite shows are written to support right wing ideas. They don't do that NOW because its easier to just give money directly to candidates. But if you block the Koch brothers from giving money to candidates, they might buy TV networks and suddenly the Walking Dead becomes a story about how evil left wingers created the zombies and how Darryl Dixon and Rick Grimes are heroic right wingers fighting against what the left wing has done.

Look at the UK, they have a big limit on the campaign funds you can use and ban television ad's and the like for elections.

[Tsimp]

You're right. They should be able to ignore the law.

The Freedom of Speech, and of the Press, and the right of the People peaceably to assemble, and consult for their common good, and to apply to the Government for a redress of grievances, shall not be infringed.

They were on public land, which we all pay for, and protesting within their rights as outlined by the Bill of Rights in the original 4th Amendment approved by the house, and later ratified as the first amendment by Congress December 15, 1791.

[Nadiru]

The Freedom of Speech, and of the Press, and the right of the People peaceably to assemble, and consult for their common good, and to apply to the Government for a redress of grievances, shall not be infringed.

They were on public land, which we all pay for, and protesting within their rights as outlined by the Bill of Rights in the original 4th Amendment approved by the house, and later ratified as the first amendment by Congress December 15, 1791.

The fascination with the whole "living document" thing the American left has going on makes it impractical to use a constitionalist argument in defense of them.

[Shadowferal]

If this "Democracy Spring" becomes too much a problem it'll get shut down.

[Xeones]

There's a bit of coverage.

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/04/11/po...ts-washington/
http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/lo...375898831.html
https://news.vice.com/article/democr...apitol-rotunda
http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016...demonstrations

One thing can be said of the coverage though. It's all from organisations that people would consider left wing. Nobody else wants to cover this until the protesters do something that could be spun to be shown as rioting.

TYT have covered it as well, cos it's right up their alley. They're not mainstream media though.

It isn't just right up their alley, Cenk the owner of TYT was one of those arrested.

[klogaroth]

It isn't just right up their alley, Cenk the owner of TYT was one of those arrested.

Yeah, you can see him in the background of the picture iceberg posted above. (at least it certainly looks like him)

[Deleted]

I still call it knowingly breaking the law. You are entitled to think it might have been too much, as I am in thinking the protesters are idiots.

http://www.constitution.org/hwheeler...civdisobed.htm

I don't think you fully understand civil disobedience, or why it should be done.

I was going to say 800 people isn't very many, but I guess that's a lot of people to be arrested.

There were thousands protesting, and that's an incredible number to be arrested.

Where is the media coverage?

These were progressives, not crazy right wing teabaggers. That's why there's no coverage.

[klogaroth]

These were progressives........... That's why there's no coverage.

That's not the sole reason. It's mostly because they're protesting peacefully.
The media can't run a story to discredit the movement based on the violent actions of a few. So they just won't run it.

A couple of punches get thrown and they'll be all over it on how these anarchist idiots are going to burn society down.

[Deleted]

That's not the sole reason. It's mostly because they're protesting peacefully.

Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying. Had they been crazy right wingers, it wouldn't have been a peaceful protest.

[enragedgorilla]

It has been mentioned, TMZ actually covered Rosario Dawson being arrested (hey, TMZ is about as legit as the rest of them now) ..so it is mentioned.
No one set fire to buildings,no one rioted , no one died (that we know of) So...the media wont cover it.
You have to kill/die/be oppressed/riot/violence to get media coverage....bleeds it leads...and all that.

[judgementofantonidas]

Over 800 people were arrested in Washington D.C. this week while peacefully protesting money in politics. Where is the media coverage?

nothing (that the ruling class wants you ) to see here.

[Drutt]

left wing fascists

There's no such thing as a left wing fascist. The fascist ideology is far right wing by definition, much like pure communism is far left.