Paladin Class Hall story (Spoilers)

[Florena]

aaah, I see what u did there Blizz. They re slowly putting in the last class/race combos, so we are used to it in the next expansion. okeydokey

Not necessarily. Npcs have never been bound by player class/race limitations.

[Deleted]

I say blizz should take it further and let DKs steal Ashbringer also. Undead Tirion Fording with corrupted Ashbringer dayum.

[KrazyK923]

I actually do quite like the idea of Priestesses of the Moon (like Delas) experimenting and becoming Paladins in their own right.

I mean Priestesses of the Moon basically are in every way except wearing heavy armor. Their magic can heal, can buff, and works really similar to the Light. Basically asking for its help in multiple different ways that seem to only matter by the person casting it.

[Teleros]

I actually do quite like the idea of Priestesses of the Moon (like Delas) experimenting and becoming Paladins in their own right.

I mean Priestesses of the Moon basically are in every way except wearing heavy armor. Their magic can heal, can buff, and works really similar to the Light. Basically asking for its help in multiple different ways that seem to only matter by the person casting it.

Back when Priestesses of the Moon first appeared in Warcraft 3, they were also warriors, armed with bow & arrow and engaging in mounted combat. Under the circumstances, some of them favouring melee weapons is reasonable, even if Delas isn't a paladin per se.

[Unir]

I'd give anything to be an undead holy paladin.

Yeah yeah lore whatever, but lore isn't convincing me of much when there will quite literally be 2.3 million Ashbringers and 1.7 million Doomhammers running around.

[Ulthane]

I say blizz should take it further and let DKs steal Ashbringer also. Undead Tirion Fording with corrupted Ashbringer dayum.

That would be the BIGGEST slap in the face ever

[Lunavale]

That would be the BIGGEST slap in the face ever

Probably would've happened if artifacts weren't a thing

[Ulthane]

Probably would've happened if artifacts weren't a thing

This is true, and it would have hurt physically. On the flip side it would renew my arguments to gain Corrupted Ashbringer for xmog again. But then the DKs would have been ITS DK ONLY

In the end it would have been a slap to the face. A BIG ONE.

My only hope is that for the Paladins that we actually see what Turalyon has been up to and catch up to him, i don't want him to get offed. The guy apparently has been crusading on various worlds and that is TONS more than what Tirion did. And that is without the Ashbringer.

[Teleros]

Quick update to this, due to the DK stuff being confirmed...

Darion, the DK player, and the 3 Horsemen attack Light's Hope. They raise the dead kept there to distract the guards outside, then fight their way in to the main Order Hall area. A fight with Liadrin ensues, which the DKs win (she lives though), but then the Light kicks their arses and they retreat to Acherus. Darion is indeed raised as the 4th Horseman.

What's that? You want mercy and forgiveness?

Lolno, I play a Retribution paladin. Time to blow Acherus up...

[Ulthane]

Quick update to this, due to the DK stuff being confirmed...

Darion, the DK player, and the 3 Horsemen attack Light's Hope. They raise the dead kept there to distract the guards outside, then fight their way in to the main Order Hall area. A fight with Liadrin ensues, which the DKs win (she lives though), but then the Light kicks their arses and they retreat to Acherus. Darion is indeed raised as the 4th Horseman.

What's that? You want mercy and forgiveness?

Lolno, I play a Retribution paladin. Time to blow Acherus up...

This, would be nice. I think what urked me the most was the attitudes of most dk players i know. Like they personally felt entitled to what Paladins have and actually tried to make this into an actual bit where they make this into something personal. Its very weird. That being said would love to pimp slap them in some fashion.

I feel that Bolvars behavior is well... off setting and i got a feeling that he will try to command his Four Horseman to pull something. Bolvar before he put on the Helm of Domination wouldnt have done this. Pretty sure someone or something else is pulling strings here... ie: Ner'zhul or something else from the Shadowlands.

I also want to point out that Darion was in our inn during WoD looking for a means to save Bolvar. So i feel thats going to come full circle.

This is just all very fishy

[Teleros]

I also want to point out that Darion was in our inn during WoD looking for a means to save Bolvar. So i feel thats going to come full circle.

Whilst Darion's quest could just be a failure, IMHO it's more likely that Blizz inadvertently screwed over that plot hook. There's a heck of a lot of lore to keep track of, and that's excluding the usual "we don't care, what sounds rad right now?!" attitude.

Edit: Also, I'm not talking about any "pimp slap". That's far too mild.

[Ashelorh]

Death knights wouldn't be happy about paladins flying into Acherus and killing Darion. Not sure why they think it's fair that they should be able to come into our order hall, fuck our shit up and rez Tirion.

[Teleros]

come into our order hall, fuck our shit up and rez Tirion.

Well in the end... eh, spoiler tags above.

Only fair we nuke Acherus in return though. Justice be served and all that.

[Ealyssa]

Death knights wouldn't be happy about paladins flying into Acherus and killing Darion. Not sure why they think it's fair that they should be able to come into our order hall, fuck our shit up and rez Tirion.

Because killing someone and rezing someone are polar opposite ? Like absolutly not even comparable ?

But obviously attacking or even sneaking peacely isn't what should have been done. They should have asked the paladin and asked alliance/horde leader (they aren't as biased as paladin in this case obviously, and can undertand the advantage of having the new "4 horsemen" on their side).

And ultimately just rez Tyrion and simply ask him... Deatknights do have free will. He could choose by himself what he wants to do, instead of weaker paladins who will never even do a quarter of what he achieved.

[Teleros]

Because killing someone and rezing someone are polar opposite ? Like absolutly not even comparable ?

By "res", Rickykong means "zombify as a DK" though, not "bring back to life".

[Ealyssa]

By "res", Rickykong means "zombify as a DK" though, not "bring back to life".

DK aren't zombies, at all. Learn your lore...

[Ashelorh]

Because killing someone and rezing someone are polar opposite ? Like absolutly not even comparable ?

But obviously attacking or even sneaking peacely isn't what should have been done. They should have asked the paladin and asked alliance/horde leader (they aren't as biased as paladin in this case obviously, and can undertand the advantage of having the new "4 horsemen" on their side).

And ultimately just rez Tyrion and simply ask him... Deatknights do have free will. He could choose by himself what I wanted to do, instead of weaker paladins who will never even do a quarter of what he achieved.

I'm not talking about from a story point of view. I'm talking from a class identity point of view. If there are rivalries between classes, death knights and Paladins have arguably the biggest one. I'm telling you, as a paladin, the fact that FIVE death knights can defeat all the guards at Light's Hope as well as your 2 most powerful followers easily makes your class feel weak. Death knights would not like it if 5 paladins could just fly on into Acherus, get blown the fuck out and defeat their leaders. Well most of them anyway.

I do feel bad for the death knights though, the conclusion to the assault on Light's Hope was extremely lame.

[Teleros]

DK aren't zombies, at all. Learn your lore...

Oh you know full well what I mean. Raised as a DK, complete with corpse-like skin, a desire to inflict pain, blah blah blah... as opposed to raised as a healthy human who serves the Light and all the rest of it.

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And ultimately just rez Tyrion and simply ask him... Deatknights do have free will. He could choose by himself what he wants to do

Per the Warcraft Chronicles book, being raised as one of the undead tends to do Bad Things(TM) to your prior moral compass. Hatred of the living, all that fun stuff. It'd be like getting someone completely pissed then asking them something... sure, they may answer sensibly... but more likely than not they won't... oh, and you're kinda-sorta-definitely hoping for the non-sensible answer, in this analogy.