Battlelord - New Class Title

[Darklurker]

It's a bit sad that every cool sounding title for a Warrior is already a PvP title.
Might as well borrow a title from our gear. The Mighty? Dreadnaught? Siegebreaker?
Overlord is still my favorite.

[Tyze]

Warbreaker
Blademaster
Demolisher
Elite
Berserker
Wrathful

[Deleted]

Demolisher

only if we get a matching mount!

[Sliske]

How did they manage to miss Valarjar?

Not been on Alpha in a while, but 99% sure Odyn calls us Valajar or Valarjar or whatever every fucking time I speak to him, yet we go for the title Skylord and then Battlelord first?

the actual fuck

edit: i mean for fucks sake, the description of Valarjar on the wiki literally reads "THESE ARE THE CHOSEN WARRIORS OF ODYN"

Far as I know, Odyn is running the show up in the warrior class hall, we are the chosen warriors of odyn, he tasks us with retrieving weapons.

SO WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THE TITLE VALARJAR???

gah fuck

[Calith-]

How did they manage to miss Valarjar?

A lot of people want us to get a reference to Odyn as our title, but just look at the other titles:

Paladin: Highlord
Hunter: Huntmaster
Rogue: Master Assassin
Priest: High Priest / High Priestess
Death Knight: Deathlord
Shaman: Farseer
Mage: Archmage
Warlock: Netherlord
Monk: Grand Master
Druid: Arch Druid
Demon Hunter: Master

All of them are appropriate to their class, regardless of their Class Quests or Order Hall.
Warriors happen to be the class most wrapped up in Odyn's misfortune but the class isn't about serving Titan Watchers and neither should the title be.

[Dalheim]

Monks get Grand Master? That's so bull. Should've been the Warlock title.

[Deleted]

A lot of people want us to get a reference to Odyn as our title, but just look at the other titles:

Paladin: Highlord
Hunter: Huntmaster
Rogue: Master Assassin
Priest: High Priest / High Priestess
Death Knight: Deathlord
Shaman: Farseer
Mage: Archmage
Warlock: Netherlord
Monk: Grand Master
Druid: Arch Druid
Demon Hunter: Master

All of them are appropriate to their class, regardless of their Class Quests or Order Hall.
Warriors happen to be the class most wrapped up in Odyn's misfortune but the class isn't about serving Titan Watchers and neither should the title be.

actually a valarjar military/honorary rank makes perfect context in that context, seeing how thats what all those are.

its highlord of the silver hand, farseer of the earthen ring, etc.

similarly we are skylord/warbringer/battlelord of the valarjar, but the rankname could just as easily be something related to odyn.

[Archimtiros]

actually a valarjar military/honorary rank makes perfect context in that context, seeing how thats what all those are.

its highlord of the silver hand, farseer of the earthen ring, etc.

similarly we are skylord/warbringer/battlelord of the valarjar, but the rankname could just as easily be something related to odyn.

I think the big difference is that those titles work outside of the context of the faction. ie: Farseer exists separate from the Earthen Ring, as does Highlord, Arch-Druid, and so on.

Valarjar isn't exactly a special title when it's given to literally every member of Odyn's ascended army.

[Calith-]

actually a valarjar military/honorary rank makes perfect context in that context, seeing how thats what all those are.

its highlord of the silver hand, farseer of the earthen ring, etc.

similarly we are skylord/warbringer/battlelord of the valarjar, but the rankname could just as easily be something related to odyn.

Yeah, the full title is implied to be Battletoad of the Valarjar, but the class titles are disconnected from the Order Hall.

Both Farseer and the Earthen Ring are exclusive to Shamans, but Farseers aren't exclusive to the Earthen Ring. You could just as easily apply it to "Farseer of the Horde".

Highlord isn't exclusive to Paladins or The Silver Hand, seeing how Twilight's Hammer use it, and there's Highlord Kruul and Highlord Omokk, but it's probably still the most circumstantial of the titles.

Looking at the current iteration of the titles compared to the last one, it's obvious that Blizzard want titles that relate to the class rather than the circumstance, hence they changed mages title from Conjurer of Tirisgarde to Archmage, as well as Skylord to Warbringer/Battlelord.

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I think the big difference is that those titles work outside of the context of the faction. ie: Farseer exists separate from the Earthen Ring, as does Highlord, Arch-Druid, and so on.

Valarjar isn't exactly a special title when it's given to literally every member of Odyn's ascended army.

It varies. Things like archmage/high priest are very generic, but things like death/netherlord are a lot more specific. And they did go for skylord initially, which was a quite specific valarjar rank. Which i like to think was changed because people didn't like it, not because of thematic reasons.

Maybe i should go read some norse mythology see if thers something more warrior soundy in there somewhere.

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Yeah, the full title is implied to be Battletoad of the Valarjar, but the class titles are disconnected from the Order Hall.

Both Farseer and the Earthen Ring are exclusive to Shamans, but Farseers aren't exclusive to the Earthen Ring. You could just as easily apply it to "Farseer of the Horde".

Highlord isn't exclusive to Paladins or The Silver Hand, seeing how Twilight's Hammer use it, and there's Highlord Kruul and Highlord Omokk, but it's probably still the most circumstantial of the titles.

Looking at the current iteration of the titles compared to the last one, it's obvious that Blizzard want titles that relate to the class rather than the circumstance, hence they changed mages title from Conjurer of Tirisgarde to Archmage, as well as Skylord to Warbringer/Battlelord.

Yeah i do get where they are coming from, but battelord just feels contrived, all the more common titles are already taken so it feels they just slapped parts of existing titles together until something sounded decent enough.

[Calith-]

It varies. Things like archmage/high priest are very generic, but things like death/netherlord are a lot more specific. And they did go for skylord initially, which was a quite specific valarjar rank. Which i like to think was changed because people didn't like it, not because of thematic reasons.

Maybe i should go read some norse mythology see if thers something more warrior soundy in there somewhere.

To be honest I thought Skylord was a pretty fun title even if it didn't relate to Warriors at all, but back then I imagined we would get a more creative Class Hall, with a lot more meteor-flying or ride of the valkyrie and more of a flying fortress and less of a Vrykul paradise resort. The more content is revealed, the more I find the way Blizz' handles the norse themes so off-putting to the point where I just want to avoid it, which is gonna be hard in Legion, especially as a Warrior.

Yeah i do get where they are coming from, but battelord just feels contrived, all the more common titles are already taken so it feels they just slapped parts of existing titles together until something sounded decent enough.

I agree, but even if they want to keep it generic there are much better candidates, like Overlord or Warmaster.

[Katie45]

Overlord to me feels too much like a horde rank, I do think warmaster is alright

[Fuck]

This title was good... if you got it world first in season 9...

[rystrave]

Every time I hear Battlelord I think Battletoads.

[Deleted]

All the Warrior-sounding titles are taken and mostly earned via PvP, however you can bet your bladestorm "Breaker of things" will be a title for a Gronn (spelling?) or one of those typical dumbass Orc bosses...

"Ash, Breaker of things"


I don't use titles, like ever, but I would probably use that...

[Toppy]

How did they manage to miss Valarjar?

Not been on Alpha in a while, but 99% sure Odyn calls us Valajar or Valarjar or whatever every fucking time I speak to him, yet we go for the title Skylord and then Battlelord first?

the actual fuck

edit: i mean for fucks sake, the description of Valarjar on the wiki literally reads "THESE ARE THE CHOSEN WARRIORS OF ODYN"

Far as I know, Odyn is running the show up in the warrior class hall, we are the chosen warriors of odyn, he tasks us with retrieving weapons.

SO WHY THE FUCK ISN'T THE TITLE VALARJAR???

gah fuck

Arent the Valarjar essentially spirits shoved into golem bodies?

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To be honest I thought Skylord was a pretty fun title even if it didn't relate to Warriors at all, but back then I imagined we would get a more creative Class Hall, with a lot more meteor-flying or ride of the valkyrie and more of a flying fortress and less of a Vrykul paradise resort. The more content is revealed, the more I find the way Blizz' handles the norse themes so off-putting to the point where I just want to avoid it, which is gonna be hard in Legion, especially as a Warrior.


I agree, but even if they want to keep it generic there are much better candidates, like Overlord or Warmaster.

Our class hall isnt related to warriors at all, so I suppose the title not being related would be fitting.