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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jtbrig7390 View Post

    Feel free to google it,Done repeating myself.
    take your own advice for once
    http://screenrant.com/the-killing-jo...rant-morrison/
    http://comicsalliance.com/batman-kil...an-bolland-dc/
    http://moviepilot.com/posts/3888182
    http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/Batman:_The_Killing_Joke
    it's all over out there you just need to bother looking.

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by vindicatorx View Post
    It is strongly implied he kills him in fact it's the main controversy around the story. Hence the name the killing joke. If you are unaware this very popular theory exists you should probably look into that.

    Actually Bolland the illustrator talks about it. Alan Moore thinks it's one of the worst stories he has ever written.
    Moore's own comments don't support that theory, the point is more that Batman can't help laughing at the joke, despite the situation.

    On his opinion of the story, I think he feels responsible for setting off the Dark Age of Comics with works like Killing Joke. Which IMO, was the result of a lot of less talented people seeing his work in superficial terms and mimicking their violence and bleakness without understanding what they were actually trying to do and say.

    And also it had less of a message than his other work, it was basically just an examination of the Batman/Joker relationship.

    I’ve never really liked my story in The Killing Joke. I think it put far too much melodramatic weight upon a character that was never designed to carry it. It was too nasty, it was too physically violent. There were some good things about it, but in terms of my writing, it’s not one of me favorite pieces. If, as I said, god forbid, I was ever writing a character like Batman again, I’d probably be setting it squarely in the kind of “smiley uncle period where Dick Sprang was drawing it, and where you had Ace the Bat-Hound and Bat-Mite, and the zebra Batman—when it was sillier. Because then, it was brimming with imagination and playful ideas. I don’t think that the world needs that many brooding psychopathic avengers. I don’t know that we need any. It was a disappointment to me, how Watchmen was absorbed into the mainstream. It had originally been meant as an indication of what people could do that was new. I’d originally thought that with works like Watchmen and Marvelman, I’d be able to say, “Look, this is what you can do with these stale old concepts. You can turn them on their heads. You can really wake them up. Don’t be so limited in your thinking. Use your imagination.” And, I was naively hoping that there’d be a rush of fresh and original work by people coming up with their own. But, as I said, it was meant to be something that would liberate comics. Instead, it became this massive stumbling block that comics can’t even really seem to get around to this day. They’ve lost a lot of their original innocence, and they can’t get that back. And, they’re stuck, it seems, in this kind of depressive ghetto of grimness and psychosis. I’m not too proud of being the author of that regrettable trend.
    https://www.inverse.com/article/1496...ot-interesting
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

  3. #63
    Are you dense? Nobody said the ending wasn't ambiguous, but that doesn't fucking make it CONTROVERSIAL. The CONTROVERSY has always been about the treatment of Barbara, NOT THE FUCKING ENDING.

    Google Killing Joke controversy. Here, I'll save you the trouble: https://www.google.com/#q=killing+joke+controversy

    Notice anything? Like, the fact that literally every link on the first page is about how Barbara is handled?

  4. #64
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    The ending was never controversial nor it was ever implied that Batman killed Joker.


  5. #65
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    Watched it over the weekend; it was ok,... just ok...

    The 1st half just dragged on with the whole Batgirl thing, but once they were over with it it became a preety decent flick.
    IMO they could have just cut the 1st half and it would turn into a good animated movie.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Tradewind View Post
    Stunningly underwhelming...

    It's a resounding "meh."
    I feel like this should be the box quote.

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