John Boehner: Ted Cruz Is "Lucifer in the Flesh"

[Selastan]

I'm a Satanist and I won't vote for Ted Cruz. Even if he were literally Lucifer I would prefer to keep religion out of politics.

[Felya]

As opposed to all the other politicians that care about you?

Then why do you think Trump represents common folks? You made the assertion...

[Alydael]

Then why do you think Trump represents common folks? You made the assertion...

I just think his policies are the most likely (of the candidates running) to favor the "common man." I think, personally, he cares mainly about himself (like all the other candidates running).

[Felya]

I think the policies he proposes favor the "common folk" more than any of the other politicians running. Do I think he is great or anything, no. The USA election typically comes down to who you think is the lesser evil. Obama and Hillary's policies have, in large, favored big business.

Which of his policies favor common folks? Substantial tax cuts on corporations? Using military to influence China's regulations on foreign business? Making corporate loopholes 'redundant' by making the tax code so low that they are not neccassary? Having a healthcare deductible tax refundable, which would have escalating effect from 0 impact on the poor to greatest effect on higher taxable earnings?

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I just think his policies are the most likely (of the candidates running) to favor the "common man." I think, personally, he cares mainly about himself (like all the other candidates running).

Which ones?

[Kalis]

Which ones?

His wall building plans will give jobs to people in the construction industry.

So lots of illegal Mexican immigrants will be better off and they are quite common.

[Alydael]

Which of his policies favor common folks? Substantial tax cuts on corporations? Using military to influence China's regulations on foreign business? Making corporate loopholes 'redundant' by making the tax code so low that they are not neccassary? Having a healthcare deductible tax refundable, which would have escalating effect from 0 impact on the poor to greatest effect on higher taxable earnings?

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Which ones?

The wall for one. There was an article yesterday that there is actually a small terrorist training camp by the southern border. The same report alleged that mexican cartels are helping terrorists sneak by in exchange for money. Who is most likely to die in a terrorist attack? A politician or the "common folk" just going to work and trying to live their lives.
The wall also protects American jobs. He wants to stop signing trade agreements in which American takes a loss. Look in the back of the economist (magazine), they list trading between nations in the back. We take a loss on so many trade deals it is ridiculous. Who ultimately bears the cost of that? The tax payer and the American worker (the "common folk").
He wants NATO to start honoring their financial commitment to the alliance. This was so popular that even Obama stole the idea and started talking about it yesterday.

[Reeve]

The wall for one. There was an article yesterday that there is actually a small terrorist training camp by the southern border. The same report alleged that mexican cartels are helping terrorists sneak by in exchange for money. Who is most likely to die in a terrorist attack? A politician or the "common folk" just going to work and trying to live their lives.
The wall also protects American jobs. He wants to stop signing trade agreements in which American takes a loss. Look in the back of the economist (magazine), they list trading between nations in the back. We take a loss on so many trade deals it is ridiculous. Who ultimately bears the cost of that? The tax payer and the American worker (the "common folk").

The wall does jack shit. If you think the wall is what will stop illegal immigration, I've got a bridge to sell you.

[Adam Jensen]

When scumbag assholes like John Boehner are calling you a scumbag asshole . . . you might just be a scumbag asshole.

Ted Cruz really is the worst of them. It's telling that no one on either side of the aisle likes him. No one.

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The wall for one. There was an article yesterday that there is actually a small terrorist training camp by the southern border. The same report alleged that mexican cartels are helping terrorists sneak by in exchange for money. Who is most likely to die in a terrorist attack? A politician or the "common folk" just going to work and trying to live their lives.
The wall also protects American jobs. He wants to stop signing trade agreements in which American takes a loss. Look in the back of the economist (magazine), they list trading between nations in the back. We take a loss on so many trade deals it is ridiculous. Who ultimately bears the cost of that? The tax payer and the American worker (the "common folk").
He wants NATO to start honoring their financial commitment to the alliance. This was so popular that even Obama stole the idea and started talking about it yesterday.

The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter legally via airplane and overstay their visas.

It's not a problem of them entering. It's a problem of them not leaving.

[Reeve]

When scumbag assholes like John Boehner are calling you a scumbag asshole . . . you might just be a scumbag asshole.

Ted Cruz really is the worst of them. It's telling that no one on either side of the aisle likes him. No one.

The fundamentalist evangelical eschatologists of the world love him.

[Alydael]

The wall does jack shit. If you think the wall is what will stop illegal immigration, I've got a bridge to sell you.

It will certainly make it more difficult for mexican drug cartels, terrorists as well as illegal immigrants to sneak in. It is also not just a wall, it is increased border security over all (more patrols, etc).

[Adam Jensen]

The fundamentalist evangelical eschatologists of the world love him.

Yeah and if that doesn't terrify you . . .

[Kalis]

The wall for one. There was an article yesterday that there is actually a small terrorist training camp by the southern border. The same report alleged that mexican cartels are helping terrorists sneak by in exchange for money. Who is most likely to die in a terrorist attack? A politician or the "common folk" just going to work and trying to live their lives.

Mexican terrorists?

[Alydael]

When scumbag assholes like John Boehner are calling you a scumbag asshole . . . you might just be a scumbag asshole.

Ted Cruz really is the worst of them. It's telling that no one on either side of the aisle likes him. No one.

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The vast majority of illegal immigrants enter legally via airplane and overstay their visas.

It's not a problem of them entering. It's a problem of them not leaving.

It will still make it more difficult for mexican drug cartels, terrorists and illegal aliens to sneak in. It is not just a wall, it is also increased security presence on the border.

[Reeve]

It will certainly make it more difficult for mexican drug cartels, terrorists as well as illegal immigrants to sneak in. It is also not just a wall, it is increased border security over all (more patrols, etc).

Increased border security could help (which is what Obama has already done, to great result). The wall does jack shit.

As for terrorists sneaking in, sneaking through the heavily patrolled Mexican border area is just about the most difficult way to sneak into the US. Far easier to get French Citizens to come in under a visa waiver or something.

The whole concept of terrorists sneaking in through Mexico is bizarro nonsense.

[Alydael]

Mexican terrorists?

No Islamic terrorists, who have made it abundantly clear that they are trying to sneak into the US to attack. Didn't realize that needed clarification, but w/e.

[Felya]

The wall for one. There was an article yesterday that there is actually a small terrorist training camp by the southern border. The same report alleged that mexican cartels are helping terrorists sneak by in exchange for money. Who is most likely to die in a terrorist attack? A politician or the "common folk" just going to work and trying to live their lives.
The wall also protects American jobs. He wants to stop signing trade agreements in which American takes a loss. Look in the back of the economist (magazine), they list trading between nations in the back. We take a loss on so many trade deals it is ridiculous. Who ultimately bears the cost of that? The tax payer and the American worker (the "common folk").

Historically, no one is likely to die from terrorist coming across the border, because it has never happened. It does not protect American jobs, as the cheap ass pay for their labor is what drives it. The way you protect American jobs is by targeting companies that pay shit to illegals, so they are forced to hire American workers. A wall will cost billions to tax payers initially and then require the same building cost repeated every 5 years due to maintenance. Who pays for it all? Not Mexico, it's common folks.

I'm not sure how his actual proposed policy to make China more accessible to foreign business is going to help either. Including putting troops off the coast of China to facilitate it. Who will be serving in the military to protect our corporate interest in China? Common folks...

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

[Kalis]

No Islamic terrorists, who have made it abundantly clear that they are trying to sneak into the US to attack. Didn't realize that needed clarification, but w/e.

Do you have a reliable source for that please?

[Adam Jensen]

No Islamic terrorists, who have made it abundantly clear that they are trying to sneak into the US to attack. Didn't realize that needed clarification, but w/e.

The 9/11 terrorists, as an example, came through Canada.

[Reeve]

Historically, no one is likely to die from terrorist coming across the border, because it has never happened. It does not protect American jobs, as the cheap ass pay for their labor is what drives it. The way you protect American jobs is by targeting companies that pay shit to illegals, so they are forced to hire American workers. A wall will cost billions to tax payers initially and then require the same building cost repeated every 5 years due to maintenance. Who pays for it all? Not Mexico, it's common folks.

I'm not sure how his actual proposed policy to make China more accessible to foreign business is going to help either. Including putting troops off the coast of China to facilitate it. Who will be serving in the military to protect our corporate interest in China? Common folks...

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

It appeals to people who like the idea of simplistic solutions and don't want to think too hard.

Have immigration problems? Build a wall!

Too expensive? Get Mexico to pay for it!

It's sort of kindergarten level thinking without any willingness to look at the actual complexity of the issues at hand.

[Felya]

No Islamic terrorists, who have made it abundantly clear that they are trying to sneak into the US to attack. Didn't realize that needed clarification, but w/e.

How did they make it abundantly clear? There has never been an Islamic terrorist attack incoming from Mexico. Not in U.S., not in Mexico, not anywhere is South America. What his Mexican policy does, is take our second largest exporter in the world and give it to China. If he follows through with his threats to Mexico, not only do we lose the second largest exporter, we let China establish a foothold in South America, which they have not been able to do, largely due to our trade agreements and location.