Poland: Far-right trample EU flag, demand 'Polexit'

[Cyberowl]

The British seem pretty sovereign to me, not everyone is following Swedens lead.

It's always mind-baffling that so many people want to leave the EU. They don't realize that many countries in Asia are becoming bigger and bigger and their countries get more insignificant. The only countries the world would still notice are France, UK and Germany; every other country doesn't have the population or the economy.

Nobody would give a fuck about Hungary, Finland or Croatia. Even the big countries have trouble staying relevant on their own. If you want to be proud of your sovereignty; go ahead. Just don't pretend you will be necessarily better off in the future.

[Kontinuum]

Irrelevant clowns.

[Deleted]

Nope. Over 80% of Polish parlament(which got 3 more years) and is still euro enthusiastic(they are just against full eurointegration), government and ruling party sometimes acts like eurosceptics but only just to distinguish from left wingers who dominates mainsteam media.

The far right wingers on this movie didn't even take part in election and when they did they get ~1%. The biggest eurosceptic party got 4,8% and wasn't able to enter to parliment(in PL you got to reach 5% to be able to get into). There are some eurosceptics in ruling party but they are unable to do anything eurosceptic. There are also some eurosceptics in 3rd biggest party but this party doesn't rly work as a party :P.

So yep, there are some bigger eurosceptic atmoshpere in PL but it's more like anti-integration(more free market, less forced laws from Brussels, more intependence from EU) than Polexit.

[Kalis]

Short of period of very relative peace between 1815 and 1914 (with still a score of revolutions and several all out localized wars), peace was an anomaly in Europe since the Carolingians yes.

And yes, there have been no war in Europe after the EU.

No wars between EU nations, which was the point of the EU (from its original incarnation), but there have been wars in Europe.

[Deleted]

No wars between EU nations, which was the point of the EU (from its original incarnation), but there have been wars in Europe.

Yugoslavia doesn't count, their states weren't in the EU at that time.

[Deleted]

Yugoslavia doesn't count, their states weren't in the EU at that time.

But nothing was said about EU, if you read what tasher wrote. It was "Europe", not "EU".

[Kalis]

Yugoslavia doesn't count, their states weren't in the EU at that time.

No, nor Ukraine.

The EU and it predecessors were designed to stop wars between nations by means of closer economic integration, basically to stop France and Germany from kicking off every five minutes and dragging the rest of us into it, as if they went to war they would destroy their own economy.

It is a sound idea, much better than the peace treaties we relied on before, because those peace treaties failed to stop things like WWI and WWII, which were quite annoying as far as wars go.

[Deleted]

No, nor Ukraine.

The EU and it predecessors were designed to stop wars between nations by means of closer economic integration, basically to stop France and Germany from kicking off every five minutes and dragging the rest of us into it, as if they went to war they would destroy their own economy.

It is a sound idea, much better than the peace treaties we relied on before, because those peace treaties failed to stop things like WWI and WWII, which were quite annoying as far as wars go.

Ukraine will never be part of the EU. That would be like Russia itself joining it.

The WWs started because of alliances. Austria started the war, then Russia declared war on Austria, so Germany was obliged to help Austria. WW2 because UK/France was allied with Poland. Germany would have left France and UK alone if they hadn't joined in for Poland.

[Deleted]

Ye talk about some tiny extremist grp in Poland forget about fact that we are about to give Turks free entrance to Europe. And with them MILLIONS of other immigrants. EU media know how to change topic.

[I Push Buttons]

Ukraine will never be part of the EU. That would be like Russia itself joining it.

The WWs started because of alliances. Austria started the war, then Russia declared war on Austria, so Germany was obliged to help Austria. WW2 because UK/France was allied with Poland. Germany would have left France and UK alone if they hadn't joined in for Poland.

You never know, after a few more decades of Putin style ultra-nationalism and average Russians living in the gutter, they might elect someone who wants to actually be a part of the world.

[Kalis]

Ukraine will never be part of the EU. That would be like Russia itself joining it.

The WWs started because of alliances. Austria started the war, then Russia declared war on Austria, so Germany was obliged to help Austria. WW2 because UK/France was allied with Poland. Germany would have left France and UK alone if they hadn't joined in for Poland.

But now Germany would have to leave France and Britain alone, as well as Poland and the Czech Republic, etc. because otherwise they would effectively be punching themselves in the balls.

Those treaties were so shit. Look at the history of Europe, it is basically just war with nations swapping sides every so often. It is not like we even hated each other, we were just bored.

[Unionoob]

Is that really going to happen? Wouldn't it get veto'd by Cyprus instantly? How do you give free entrance to the citizens of a state that doesn't even recognize you exist?

They will find a way to ignore Cyprus complaints.

[dribbles]

EU faces a choice.

1. Give Turks visa free access/EU membership and travel throughout Europe

or

2. Turks let unlimited asylum seekers from the Middle East have access to Greece / all of the EU

[Unionoob]

I don't think a country can gain temporary visa inside Schengen without that passing from all parliaments.

They could try give visa for Europe and not Schengen and allow them to enter in Cyprus not through Northern Cyprus but through Germany, Greece or any country which have ship \ plane connections with Cyprus..

[dholland662]

So they want to become part of Russia again?

I really dont think the EU will protect them. If Russia invades, the EU will fight to the last Pole. Not the other way around.

[Kalis]

I don't think a country can gain temporary visa inside Schengen without that passing from all parliaments.

Cyprus is not in the Schengen Area yet, so they could get around that.

[Unionoob]

I really dont think the EU will protect them. If Russia invades, the EU will fight to the last Pole. Not the other way around.

I don't think anyone truly believes western Europe would want to help to protect Eastern Europe from Russia. Only hope is receiving some kind protection from USA because of all those treaties and USA could hurt the most if they wouldn't keep up to them and not because of Russia but China could consider that they won't come for protection for countries in Asia.
And About eastern Europe we have survived for many centuries under different rulers. We better let them walk here and live peacefully then being destroyed and that would be interesting to see how would Germany like to have Russian bases on its borders.

[Eazy]

Oh noes, Poland is going to leave us.
To who do we have to send all that money now?

"We", lol, like someone cares about your 5€ weekly from your taxes. xD

[Deleted]

Isn't Poland like a dictatorship these days?

[Shibito]

The far right do that in every EU country.

You know what they all have in common? They're absolute retards and would rather watch the world burn around them.

Everything you regressive lefties dont agree with is far right yes we heard it before.