Believe in biology? Canada will jail you for 2+ years 4 transphobia

[CMartel]

http://louderwithcrowder.com/canada-.../#.V0ThrpDmqUl

Believe in Biology? Canada To Sentence ‘Anti-Trans’ Speakers to Prison…

Yes, Canada wants to jail you for what they deem ‘transphobia,’ just because…it’s Canada. We thought fines starting at $250,000 in New York City was ridiculous. But Canada? They saw that as a challenge and are going with a 2-3 year jail sentence. It’s a race to see who can be the most hateful of free-speech. So far Canada is winning, but give NYC a chance.

All these fines and jail sentences? They’re in the name of tolerance. Plus, it’s only free speech if the government tells you it’s free speech…


Citing the need to make transgender people “feel safe and secure in who they are,” Canada’s Minister of Justice Jody Wilson-Raybould introduced legislation Tuesday that would prohibit discrimination on the basis of “gender identity” or “gender expression” and make anti-transgender “hate propaganda” punishable by up to two years in prison.

The proposed legislation — which was unveiled on the International Day Against Homophobia, Transphobia, and Biphobia — would amend the Canadian Criminal Code to expand existing “hate speech” prohibitions to include any public speech or communication that “promotes hatred” on the basis of “gender identity” or “gender expression.”

An identical ban on anti-gay “hate propaganda” has been in place for several years and has caused problems for Christians who oppose gay marriage. In 2013, the Canadian Supreme Court upheld the conviction of a Christian street preacher for distributing fliers denouncing homosexual behavior.

Side note, am I the only one creeped out by someone calling themselves the “Minister of Justice?” I guess one can put “minister” in front of anything these days. Still, the image calls to mind a famous, dark-hooded figure carrying a scythe.


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[Gamdwelf]

A phobia is an irrational fear. Stop being irrational and fearful instead of going to jail ezpz.

[Garnier Fructis]

Can you get an avatar that doesn't have text so small as to be unreadable?

[Gheld]

It just includes it in the already existing hate speech framework.

Saying "Trans people aren't really <Gender>" wouldn't fit the bill.

It more focuses on "trans people aren't really <gender> so we should beat them up"

[Hyve]

Actually, I agree with them.

I don't really get all of this new Trans stuff, but ... What right do you have to be a total asshat to someone who wants to pursue their life in a different manner?

[TwoNineMarine]

I wonder what the definition of "hate propaganda" is in this context.

[Deleted]

Is Endus secretly Mr Trudeau?
All hail The glorious leader!

[SodiumChloride]

Slippery slope ...

I feel you should be able to say whatever the fuck you want as long as no one gets hurt.

[Deleted]

Actually, I agree with them.

I don't really get all of this new Trans stuff, but ... What right do you have to be a total asshat to someone who wants to pursue their life in a different manner?

Because if I am a total fucking cunt to someone over the internet or shouting at the, it's still just words and not every argument is a slippery slope where people need to kill each other.

[Deleted]

I was fine with canada till I met the most active thread poster of mmo-champion.. In my little world HE IS CANADA. I am "phobia" now.

[SodiumChloride]

I wonder what the definition of "hate propaganda" is in this context.

Apparently it's whatever they say so.

Not sure how they are better than the Catholic Inquisition of the Middle Ages.

[Darththeo]

I don't see the problem. I am not Canadian so why should I care what Canada does?

[Gheld]

Because if I am a total fucking cunt to someone over the internet or shouting at the, it's still just words and not every argument is a slippery slope where people need to kill each other.

"Hate speech" typically involves urging others into discriminatory action against somebody. So just being like "Trans men are just chicks with inverted vaginas" wouldn't qualify as hate speech.

[nonameelf]

I'm pretty sure this is a hate speech law. The solution is easy, stop being an asshole to people who don't affect you.

Also, hate speech generally applies to things like, "fucking trans, we should kill them all," and not things like, "I don't think being trans is right."

[Deleted]

I wonder what the definition of "hate propaganda" is in this context.

Its Canada - the place that brought us Endus and 'the current year' - I'm certain its suitably vague and Orwellian.

[Deleted]

"Hate speech" typically involves urging others into discriminatory action against somebody. So just being like "Trans men are just chicks with inverted vaginas" wouldn't qualify as hate speech.

Until you get a rabid tumblr twitter horde calling that and the weak pussy government caves in to pressure.

[Gheld]

Until you get a rabid tumblr twitter horde calling that and the weak pussy government caves in to pressure.

I wouldn't worry too much. I say some pretty controversial shit in the privacy of my own home and I haven't been arrested yet.

[TwoNineMarine]

Its Canada - the place that brought us Endus and 'the current year' - I'm certain its suitably vague and Orwellian.

That's the vibe I got as well ):

Apparently it's whatever they say so.

Not sure how they are better than the Catholic Inquisition of the Middle Ages.

And that's what's worrisome I think. Not having it laid out makes for a dangerous precedent.

[CMartel]

Can you get an avatar that doesn't have text so small as to be unreadable?

You can clearly see Obama in line with lots of little girls for the bathroom, do you really need to guess what they say?

[Sky High]

welp, glad I don't have to worry about my speech here in America. I'd love to comment on this more but I forsee this lasting all of about 3-4 pages.