I Wish Movies were More Realistic

[Venziir]

If the people of the world were more aware of the world's problems, then the world would probably be a better place. That is the point I am trying to make here.

That certainly wasn't the point you had in mind when you created this thread, judging from the OP. Congratulations; you've derailed yourself utterly. Besides, your point is utterly moot.

[Kokolums]

For me too many movies have happy endings that do not reflect the reality of life. More movies need to end with failure, broken dreams, and soul crushing depression. Some argue that no one would go to see movies like this, but I would go simply for the fact that they wouldn't be as fake as the crap we are constantly peddled today. Show the world how it really is.

Disney endings always leave me with a sour taste in my mouth, like a phony imitation of the real thing.

Lord of the Rings is actually a very depressing, soul crushing movie once you realize that Eru Iluvatar is totally evil. You see, when you ask a Christian why God allows suffering in this world, its because of the promise of an eternal afterlife in paradise. And if that is eternal, then the few decades you spent here are meaningless.

Iluvatar does not offer eternal paradise to anyone. The Elves for example have ONLY a mortal life and then they fade into oblivion when the world ends. In this mortal life Iluvatar allows Morgoth and Sauron to torture and kill them for seemingly no other reason besides sport. Iluvatar could put a stop to this but he doesn't. If anything, Elves might get reincarnated into middle-Earth which leads to more pain and suffering.

Iluvatar promises nothing to anyone. You are stuck in middle earth to suffer and possibly die at the hands of Morgoth and Sauron for Iluvatar's pleasure. Only a truly evil creator would set such stipulations.

[Sorrior]

Has been happening for millennia by different groups, except the girls weren't in schools



Religion has been around for quite a while, as has the atrocities that religious nuts have committed



Oy vey, been drinking that kool aid lately have we?



Ah yes, compared to Egyptian pharaohs and their slaves?

Actualllly at least the slaves were probably guaranteed shelter(shit tactic shelter and shifty ass food but still given it) it takes working to death to barely get anything in some countries right now

[Tziva]

There are documentaries for that.

Most people have enough real life in real life.

[PC2]

Actualllly at least the slaves were probably guaranteed shelter(shit tactic shelter and shifty ass food but still given it) it takes working to death to barely get anything in some countries right now

Global starvation has declined significantly in the last 20 years, so it's less and less of a problem.

[chrisnumbers]

I watch less movies these days, and more documentaries. I'll watch a doc about almost anything. Sports, math and physics, gov corruption, healthy eating, drug cartels, nazi germany, the business of hospitals, nuclear energy, all of the above.
Those are my realistic movies, and Netflix is a beautiful thing.
The last documentary I watched was called "Particle Fever" about the Large Hadron Collider. The day before that I watched a "30 for 30" about Reggie Miller vs NY Knicks.

[Sorrior]

Global starvation has declined significantly in the last 20 years, so it's less and less of a problem.

Ehhh more what I meam is in the US affordable food is very low on any charts of good health

[Fencers]

There is a good mix of films with less than 'happy' endings. Perhaps it is a issue of genre, OP?

What I mean is, perhaps you are seeking out the same genre over and over. Genres by their nature will correspond to certain tropes. Change up the genre of movies you watch more often. Or just look for different styles of film making.

[Deathquoi]

Are you saying that you have never failed at anything in your entire life. I would not be afraid to call you a liar on that account.

I didn't say that. I've failed at plenty of things, but on balance my life has been far more successes than failures, so to generalize that "real life" is only filled with failure, disappointment, and depression is pretty weak and whiny. You might have a shitty life but that isn't true of everyone.

[Dasffion]

Boko Haram killing or selling off like a hundred school girls, all kinds of savagery being committed by ISIS, U.S. drone strikes killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, retarded amounts of income inequality, massive labor exploitation in third world countries, greed, corruption, and so much more shit that it would take a month just to list it all. But dumb fucking Americans would rather just escape from reality and watch "entertaining" cat videos instead of addressing the very real problems that the world faces. So again, fuck your "happy feeling" cat videos they accomplish nothing. If people were more aware and informed about the realities of the world, then it would probably be a lot better place to live.

i thought we were talking about movies not cat videos? Also cat videos ARE reality so isn't that what you want?

[Zethras]

Dystopia.

That is the genre you’re looking for.

[Pull My Finger]

For me too many movies have happy endings that do not reflect the reality of life. More movies need to end with failure, broken dreams, and soul crushing depression.

When you start living a real adult life, you'll eventually have enough of that crap and will learn to appreaciate having a light-hearted good time.

[eschatological]

If you want to discuss films which are realistic and reflect issues in the real world - fine. This isn't GenOT, and the discussion/debate of political issues isn't appropriate here. Stay on topic.


My personal opinion is that film, at its most base, is mindless entertainment. And at its best, is art. At the root of art, imo, is truth - whether it is heartbreaking and awful or beauty captured in a moment. Happy endings (great show, I miss it) are made because they have mass appeal.

The idea that we've veered away from drama and morality tales (Sophocles, Shakespeare, etc) to idyllic Romanticism and naivete might be a valid criticism, but I'd say it's just a higher percentage of nonsense drowning out the serious works that you're looking for, OP.

[Halicia]

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My personal opinion is that film, at its most base, is mindless entertainment. And at its best, is art. At the root of art, imo, is truth - whether it is heartbreaking and awful or beauty captured in a moment. Happy endings (great show, I miss it) are made because they have mass appeal.

The idea that we've veered away from drama and morality tales (Sophocles, Shakespeare, etc) to idyllic Romanticism and naivete might be a valid criticism, but I'd say it's just a higher percentage of nonsense drowning out the serious works that you're looking for, OP.

Sturgeon's Law.

But yeah, there's a reason why movies like Casablanca, Godfather, and Citizen Kane are classics imo, and others... not so much.

I'm sure there are movies that end on a happy, unrealistic note, that can be considered works of art, but I'm pretty sure the ones with a foot in reality vastly outnumber them in the population of "great movies".

[eschatological]

Let's also remember, Casablanca, Citizen Kane, etc, survived and are now considered classic. There were lots of movies, probably as high a percentage as today, which were just mindless entertainment. But because no one remembers them except for film archivists, there's a false perception that movies were "better" back then.

[Rudkobing]

Fuck Realism. Movies are entertainment.

[Nathreim]

Reality sucks why would you want more of it?

[Daos]

Maybe that's why things are so screwed up today. Everyone is trying to escape or ignore reality, when what they really need are the hard facts shoved right in their face. Fuck your silly cat videos, go watch some news about the events and atrocities happening in the world right now.

I'm not sure I'd have the motivation to get out of bed ever if I were constantly reminded of how fucked up the world is with no possibility of any escapism of any kind. Your way might have the effect you desire, or it might lead to much more depression.

I like me a gut-wrenching, bittersweet, sad ending to a story. Which is why I play Japanese Visual Novels.

Sometimes I feel endings like that go beyond the concept of "bittersweet" to just plain "bitter." Like, for it to be bittersweet requires for it to be both good and bad/sad at the same time. Sometimes writers don't seem to understand this and just write a story where it ends with everyone dead, or everyone fucked over, and I feel they completely missed the point. Then again, perhaps that is the point and I'm the one who missed it. Difficult to say.

[ItachiZaku]

I always liked the Omen movies as a kid, since Damien always won.

I go to movies to escape reality, but I understand about the shiny, happy ending nonsense. One of my favorites was The Butterfly Effect, the first 3-4 times I saw it was on Directors Cut DVD, which has a completely dark ending compared to the shiny standard ending. I never knew the ending was completely different until I'd seen it on TV one day and thought.. i don't remember this happening... and then the end i was like... ummm this ending really, really sucks.

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To add, this topic might be another reason i enjoy slasher flicks a lot and torture porn. Like, people can say "yay, the bad guy lost!" well, I say... no, he killed 14 people before they caught him or may or maybe not have "killed" him... that's still pretty good to me. When it's someone like Jay Voorhees or Fred Krueger, they transcend that dynamic and end up being the character we root for. We don't really care if Jigsaw gets caught, we want to enjoy the intricate traps that each person gets caught in. The entertainment.

[Shadowferal]

Boko Haram killing or selling off like a hundred school girls, all kinds of savagery being committed by ISIS, U.S. drone strikes killing hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians, retarded amounts of income inequality, massive labor exploitation in third world countries, greed, corruption, and so much more shit that it would take a month just to list it all. But dumb fucking Americans would rather just escape from reality and watch "entertaining" cat videos instead of addressing the very real problems that the world faces. So again, fuck your "happy feeling" cat videos they accomplish nothing. If people were more aware and informed about the realities of the world, then it would probably be a lot better place to live.

I live in a reality that sucks to be in.
Why the fuck would I pay to see a movie when I have plenty enough of that?
So fuck your desire that people should be more aware that life is despairing.
I don't need it. I see it every damn day.