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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Good, because that shit is serious.

    If Conservatives are frothing at the mouth about Hillary's email situation they should be as equally concerned about Trump outright scamming people out of thousands of dollars.
    Pretty big differences. Email gate is a showcase for how inept hildog is at not only her job but basic office skills and the ability to handle sensitive information. That's the leader one side of the aisle is interested in voting for, I could say more but not going to cauz it's irrelevant to the discussion.

    On the other hand you have Trump, who's university is sleezy at the least but not really any better or worse then for profit collegiate institutions. Many of these places charge 1.5x what it would cost for a normal degree while not even being recognized by the entirety of educational establishments. Almost the majority of technical institutes etc that you see advertising on TV have graduation rates lower then 5%, often leading students towards predatory loans instead of conventional student loans, and leaving people with a piece of worthless paper and in some cases almost 300k in debt. Trump university is the same kind of product, just more flamboyant in it's brand name. As they say, don't hate the player, hate the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    Pretty big differences. Email gate is a showcase for how inept hildog is at not only her job but basic office skills and the ability to handle sensitive information. That's the leader one side of the aisle is interested in voting for, I could say more but not going to cauz it's irrelevant to the discussion.

    On the other hand you have Trump, who's university is sleezy at the least but not really any better or worse then for profit collegiate institutions. Many of these places charge 1.5x what it would cost for a normal degree while not even being recognized by the entirety of educational establishments. Almost the majority of technical institutes etc that you see advertising on TV have graduation rates lower then 5%, often leading students towards predatory loans instead of conventional student loans, and leaving people with a piece of worthless paper and in some cases almost 300k in debt. Trump university is the same kind of product, just more flamboyant in it's brand name. As they say, don't hate the player, hate the game.
    We don't grade fraudsters on a curve, and there's plenty of hate to go around.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    I don't think that alone convicts him of anything particularly unsavory. He's been involved in more cases as a plaintiff than as a defendant.
    That is because he is fucking PC when it comes to him but fuck everyone else. This is why he wants to expand libel laws so he can sue the media for reporting about him. Even if they are right.

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    Still a coin toss on who I'd rather have in office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    Not among thoughtful individuals. The report says him, or his companies. He has a lot of companies. It includes everything from a fight at a Trump casino to someone crashing a golf cart on a Trump golf course. How many lawsuits do you think Disney has been involved in? It comes with the territory. Unusual for a presidential candidate? Sure. But not for a businessman of his stature.

    There's lots of things that point to the fact that he is an extremely unsavory character, which he is of course. I just don't think this is one of them.
    /wanking motion. so a few don't involve him directly, that supposed to mean something? well if you ever bothered to look at the nature of the cases and that's what you got out of it then that's fine by me. whoopie. All this tells me is he is a businessman who is obsessed with his image and the "value" his name brings, that he attacks any and all threats to it, no matter how benign they are. and that's if we ignore all the actual legal shit he "and his companies" have been involved in. but again, if none of that changes your feelings then I'm not going to waste your time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    That is because he is fucking PC when it comes to him but fuck everyone else. This is why he wants to expand libel laws so he can sue the media for reporting about him. Even if they are right.
    That has nothing to do with the amount of lawsuits he's involved in. He's involved in a large number of lawsuits because he's involved with a lot of interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merkava View Post
    In all seriousness, if you're put off by that much of a whiff of a corruption, you really must not have been following the Clinton's very closely for the last 20 years.
    This is just a whiff, compared to what? All the smoke blowing the right does about Clinton?
    There are no worse scum in this world than fascists, rebels and political hypocrites.
    Donald Trump is only like Hitler because of the fact he's losing this war on all fronts.
    Apparently condemning a fascist ideology is the same as being fascist. And who the fuck are you to say I can't be fascist against fascist ideologies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rick Magnus View Post
    What's with the cheap politicians? I would have held out for minimum a million.
    He doesn't have it, at least that I suspect. I mean he tried to sue someone for saying that he was only worth $150-250 million a few years ago, and the case was thrown out. This is also why I suspect that he waited until the case broke that he hadn't paid the vet groups, it was because he needed the money for several other things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High View Post
    /wanking motion. so a few don't involve him directly, that supposed to mean something? well if you ever bothered to look at the nature of the cases and that's what you got out of it then that's fine by me. whoopie. All this tells me is he is a businessman who is obsessed with his image and the "value" his name brings, that he attacks any and all threats to it, no matter how benign they are. and that's if we ignore all the actual legal shit he "and his companies" have been involved in. but again, if none of that changes your feelings then I'm not going to waste your time.
    Lol wanking motion. You want a fucking wanking motion? Try reading your own links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Is this going to sway Trump voters? Nope. Here comes the handwaves.
    He'd just buy their votes too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manabomb View Post
    This is just a whiff, compared to what? All the smoke blowing the right does about Clinton?
    I don't think the FBI and the State Dept IG and even the NYT constitute the right. Is that what you think?

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    Trump is now claiming that the judge in the case has a conflict of interest in the case because he is 'of Mexican descent'.

    This isn't much different than Trump blaming the media for misrepresenting things he actually says. It's never his fault, how can we blame someone else?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    He doesn't have it, at least that I suspect. I mean he tried to sue someone for saying that he was only worth $150-250 million a few years ago, and the case was thrown out. This is also why I suspect that he waited until the case broke that he hadn't paid the vet groups, it was because he needed the money for several other things.
    Wait he still hasn't paid the vet groups? Wtf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Good, because that shit is serious.

    If Conservatives are frothing at the mouth about Hillary's email situation they should be as equally concerned about Trump outright scamming people out of thousands of dollars.
    I don't know if they would actually notice. Probably too worried about Hillary and her email.
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    Coming from someone who has bragged on the record that "noone cheats on their taxes better than him", I'm not surprised that he'd be involved in other financial malfeasance.

    It makes my head spin how he can brag about not being part of the system, and then brag about being the best at working the system in the same breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Celista View Post
    Wait he still hasn't paid the vet groups? Wtf?
    He didn't until the media started digging last week. This $6 million he supposedly raised 4 months ago, most of it wasn't paid out until the 24th of May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Halicia View Post
    Coming from someone who has bragged on the record that "noone cheats on their taxes better than him", I'm not surprised that he'd be involved in other financial malfeasance.

    It makes my head spin how he can brag about not being part of the system, and then brag about being the best at working the system in the same breath.
    Yep. Especially when he says he is worth "$10 billion dollars" and him personally valuing some of his golf courses at over $50 million each but when he paid his taxes on them, they are only worth about $1.4 million, so he doesn't have to pay much in property and real estate taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by advanta View Post
    Trump could sacrifice a child live on national television and it would not have the slightest effect on his fan base.

    I think you expect too much of people you should expect very little of.
    I'd back him after that. Sacrificing a child on TV takes balls; Balls the US is lacking :P

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    It's not the worse and it won't be the last. Trump's level of trustworthiness is laughable, less than I'd give to a drug addict.

    This news will be consistent ammo for his opposer but financially, it won't affect him too hard unless they feel the case is worth a higher settlement.

    P.S. Is there an official number on how much he's being sued for in this civil case?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    Pretty big differences. Email gate is a showcase for how inept hildog is at not only her job but basic office skills and the ability to handle sensitive information. That's the leader one side of the aisle is interested in voting for, I could say more but not going to cauz it's irrelevant to the discussion.

    On the other hand you have Trump, who's university is sleezy at the least but not really any better or worse then for profit collegiate institutions. Many of these places charge 1.5x what it would cost for a normal degree while not even being recognized by the entirety of educational establishments. Almost the majority of technical institutes etc that you see advertising on TV have graduation rates lower then 5%, often leading students towards predatory loans instead of conventional student loans, and leaving people with a piece of worthless paper and in some cases almost 300k in debt. Trump university is the same kind of product, just more flamboyant in it's brand name. As they say, don't hate the player, hate the game.
    Trump's University was an outright scam, it was not validated by none of the state and falsely advertised as a "university". Some the teachers were McDonald's employees or "skilled at high pressure sales". Noone were actual real state experts. There was nothing legit in this buisness and yet you are going to forgive him because others do it. You know what Trump could have done instead? Make an actual university with real teachers like any respectable buisnessman would do, given that he values more his integrity rather than money.

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    Another news report with additional information from Texas. The shenanigans in Texas are huuuuge.

    http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.c...happened.html/
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