Trump Walks Back Remarks on Guns at Orlando Club After NRA Disagrees

[Garnier Fructis]

So do we want a good liar or a bad liar as president? Hmm, choices choices.

Doesn't matter to me.

[Glnger]

Well, I agree what he said was not too bright as a politician. He needs to learn to play by the rules of political correctness based on public opinion. This is where he could learn some things from Hillary. lol.

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But that does not say what specifically the NRA was opposed to. I can see them opposing some parts of the bill. Namely the one reducing the criteria for a assault weapon from 2 items to 1 item. This would broaden the field of eligible rifles by a large amount. While I am not oppose to background checks for private sales I can see where they would be. As those will not reduce the amount of gun violence by any appreciative amount and only hinders the right of the person to sell their possessions.

I think they would look at those bills and feel like it is a start to even more restrictions to the point of violating the 2nd Amendment down the road. Which one of their duties is to protect that right.

Not saying I agree with this and I am not personally a member of the NRA. But knowing their position on such topics, I am not surprised they opposed them.

so the NRA's slippery slope argument, "any gun regulation is just another step on the ladder to a weapons ban" type stupidity....I take it from your ability to form sentences you're not falling for this shit. also the fact we already can't purchase burst fire/full auto rifles, military grade flamethrowers (homemade ones still legal), mortars or a howitzer. all while the EXACT opposite is happening in actual reality.

gotta love the NRA supported arms race between "murricans" and the police. "murricans" claim they need military weapons to defend from a "tyrannical government", and the police arguing they need stronger weaponry to deal with "murricans" yet the 75% of Americans who are neither, that just want to go to work and come home to their children being alive are the ones who suffer.... you wanna talk about fucked up cultures...At least when the Muslims do it, they do it for religion, we just let our children die for campaign contributions..

[lockedout]

Do you honestly want me to look into the voting and show you what party voted for what? just how much hand-holding do you need, friend?
if you give me your number I can call and read it to you if you'd like.

That's a background check on private sales which is not what you claimed.
I also don't see anything about waiting periods.
So care to actually link what you claimed, did you notice I didn't mention anything about AWB? Funny how that is most of your post...

[Glnger]

That's a background check on private sales which is not what you claimed.
I also don't see anything about waiting periods.
So care to actually link what you claimed, did you notice I didn't mention anything about AWB? Funny how that is most of your post...

you quoted this:

Do you honestly want me to look into the voting and show you what party voted for what? just how much hand-holding do you need, friend?
if you give me your number I can call and read it to you if you'd like.

again I ask, what level of hand holding do you require?
I didn't mention one word about waiting periods, you did.
again, just how much hand-holding do you need to get through these hoops mate, ill dumb this down to pre-school if need be.

remember what you're trying to argue hommie

[Eviscero]

Just thought I'd point out that Trump rallies are gun free zones.

[Glnger]

Just thought I'd point out that Trump rallies are gun free zones.

so is the NRA headquarters.... yet they think YOU need to allow more guns into your children's schools

[Felya]

Did Trump ask the NRA? If not then wtf are you even talking about?

Uhm... His stance changed after talking to NRA... So... Yes... Unlike the assumption with Hilary, this thread is literally about Trump changing his mind immidietly after talking to NRA. 48 hours after he doubled down on his initial comment.

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You needed to read down a little further to have seen I did admit he was wrong. Period. No need for the little insult jab.

I sarcastically point out that Trump is pretty much responding like an internet troll and you get offended by me? Trump is insulting you, his comment is idiotic. Your reading comprehension is fine, it's Trump that's a dick for saying your reading comprehension missed his obvious comment. Where is your rage at Trump?

[Paula Deen]

This dude already flip-flopping harder than Mittens.

[Felya]

Well, I agree what he said was not too bright as a politician. He needs to learn to play by the rules of political correctness based on public opinion. This is where he could learn some things from Hillary. lol.

He cannot, because if he tries to be competent, as you said your self, he would be learning from his far more competent competition. Instead, he can just claim his supporters are idiots, to then have them defend him anyway. His support lies in the fact that he can take a shit on your face, but then have you applaud it or point at Hilary in his defense. He cannot win going tow to tow on competency, he has to rely on people buying him as anti-PC, even when he calls you an idiot.

[PosPosPos]

Lol. Good point. He was wrong and saying he was misunderstood is not going to change the fact he was wrong. But he has said he has changed his stance on some issues. Even admitted he once was pro- choice.

So Hillary changing stances some issues as well qualify as being a populist liar, but Trump doing the same thing is now having a backbone?

The Trumpets doing some astounding mental cartwheels there, as usual.

[Glnger]

So Hillary changing stances some issues as well qualify as being a populist liar, but Trump doing the same thing is now having a backbone?

The Trumpets doing some astounding mental cartwheels there, as usual.

these guys are pretty much breaking their backs along with all credibility just trying to give Trump a neutral venue

[Felya]

Eh, that's basically how people act with regards to politics (And many other things).

"Person I like" did something? It's awesome!

"Person I dislike" did the same thing? It's terrible!

The problem here, defending Trump means you agree that his initial statement wasn't wrong, but that you were wrong by misinterpreting the obvious. To agree with Trump here, is to agree that you have issues with comprehension of the obvious. Even though, it's blatantly obvious that Trump was wrong, he would just rather blame everyone's reading comprehension. This is your personal responsobility of Trump.

At this point, it's alright for Trump to pretty much call his supporters idiots, but his supporters toss a fit when anyone agrees with Trump on this.