HFC nerfs are in.

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http://i.imgur.com/nIAXqfK.png

everything has this debuff on the beta, this was on mythic.

also ignore the ui, only copied my DK over to see if they actually did nerf anything since it has a tanaan portal.

[Gohzerlock]

Everyone seems to do substantially less damage though.

[Relapses]

About what we expected, perhaps even a bit more with everything also dealing 30% less damage.

[Justpassing]

I'd be demoralised if I've been getting killed for 14 months too, so.

[MrExcelion]

Were you able to live long enough to see if Imps still explode on mythic? Doing that fight without grips won't be fun. Skeptical that 30% will be enough considering many specs are going down in DPS with the prepatch, especially since they're nerfing all the trinkets quite a bit

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Were you able to live long enough to see if Imps still explode on mythic? Doing that fight without grips won't be fun. Skeptical that 30% will be enough considering many specs are going down in DPS with the prepatch, especially since they're nerfing all the trinkets quite a bit

With -30% dmg inc you can simply "stack" and easily survive+aoe Imps, not having Massgrip wont be a big deal.

[Frolk]

7-9sec Iron Reaver kills inc?

[cFortyfive]

7-9sec Iron Reaver kills inc?

I'd just afk
Not unexpected but higher than I though.

[Hotmail]

5/13 Mythic heroes rejoice!

[Sierra85]

how much of a nerf is it considering players dmg will be less.

[Hypasonic]

Yet people are suprised? HFC was/is obviously going to get nerfed, how else would blizz be able to balance chars at 100 when the changes are made for 110.

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Cheap mounts inc

[durrtygoodz]

Cheap mounts inc

Doubtful. The new guilds that are able to down it with this nerf probably won't sell the few mounts they have time to get, and definitely not cheap. And demand will still be high because of all the people that thought they'd be cheaper by the end are trying to panic buy in the closing weeks. So ultimately I don't think we'll have a problem selling them for our usual price.

[Ragetacular]

archimonde mythic is funny with this nerf i mean from 464m to 324m this is really huge so basicly you bloodlust him into the last phase even if the dps is not so high like now i think there are many classes who do more then now on live.

Everyone does significantly less damage with the exception of a handful of specs.

[Deja Thoris]

archimonde mythic is funny with this nerf i mean from 464m to 324m this is really huge so basicly you bloodlust him into the last phase even if the dps is not so high like now i think there are many classes who do more then now on live.

Yea thats not going to happen. I was just on the ptr with my (admittedly) unoptimised mage. It bursts for half of what it does on live (if I'm lucky) and then it has no sustain damage due to mana problems. I think fights will last longer but be more forgiving because of the 30% damage dealt reduction.

[Relapses]

Yea thats not going to happen. I was just on the ptr with my (admittedly) unoptimised mage. It bursts for half of what it does on live (if I'm lucky) and then it has no sustain damage due to mana problems. I think fights will last longer but be more forgiving because of the 30% damage dealt reduction.

Don't play Arcane on the PTR. The spec is designed around level 110's mana pool and it just doesn't work. It's pretty much Fire or maybe Frost (but I dislike the way it plays at 100).

[Deja Thoris]

Don't play Arcane on the PTR. The spec is designed around level 110's mana pool and it just doesn't work. It's pretty much Fire or maybe Frost (but I dislike the way it plays at 100).

It was just for direct comparison

[Relapses]

so fire or ice is better at 100^^

Ice...?



...if you mean Frost, then yeah play Fire instead. It sucks, imo. Not really fun.

[Deleted]

I'm kinda surprised it's not 40 or 50. Then again I might be only thinking of short fights. On longer fights it might normalize.

Don't play Arcane on the PTR. The spec is designed around level 110's mana pool and it just doesn't work.

The spec mana management also sucks at 110 or at least early 110. The conservation phase appears to do extremely low DPS to the point of ridiculousless, both on PTR and beta. We're talking about only being able to have 1 or 2 charges up max.

[Alydael]

Why did they need to nerf HFC? It is so easy as it is.