[7.0 Retribution Paladin] Guide and Discussion

[Calimon-ZJ]

I am calm? I'm simply saying it would nice , if they communicated it with us.

Who wipes for you?

[Morally Grey Storm]

Should I upgrade Liadrin's Fury come 7.1, or reserve it for ifwhen The Cloak drops?
ara ara ara~

[Deleted]

The short dream

It seems to be back in the notes again , someone at blizz HQ is trolling us :P

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Should I upgrade Liadrin's Fury come 7.1, or reserve it for ifwhen The Cloak drops?
ara ara ara~

We don't have any information as to how many of those upgrade items we can get , do we Storm my good sir?

[Morally Grey Storm]

We don't have any information as to how many of those upgrade items we can get , do we Storm my good sir?

current information available says it's once time upgrade , hence me pondering.

[Snowfunk]

Should I upgrade Liadrin's Fury come 7.1, or reserve it for ifwhen The Cloak drops?
ara ara ara~

Legendary upgrade wont be available until Nighthold is released, that's in January next year.

[Clozer]

It's in there again. That should make us #1 in every st encounter, no? LUL

[Morally Grey Storm]

Legendary upgrade wont be available until Nighthold is released, that's in January next year.

That means I have time yet to farm up The Cloak

[OrcsRLame]

If this change goes through, I think the SoV bracers will become BiS, because a geared ret will pull fucking aggro from even the best tank.

I still don't believe this is real. I won't believe it till I can hit a dummy with it on live.

[Calimon-ZJ]

Even if it went live, we wouldn't be #1. We'd be right up there though. Godly burst but there's no way it will make it tomorrow. They have even said they are leaving crusade alone as is in 7.1

[OrcsRLame]

Even if it went live, we wouldn't be #1. We'd be right up there though. Godly burst but there's no way it will make it tomorrow. They have even said they are leaving crusade alone as is in 7.1

Yes we would. With 6/6 WOTA we'd be topping out at at least 4-5 million dps. With the damn cloak and ring the best rets could probably top out at 8-10 mil. We'd be HFC Arcane Mage levels of broken. Pulling aggro would become a legitimate concern, as tanks would need to sustain ~2 million dps for 35 seconds in the most extreme cases.

[Calimon-ZJ]

Yes we would. With 6/6 WOTA we'd be topping out at at least 4-5 million dps. With the damn cloak and ring the best rets could probably top out at 8-10 mil. We'd be HFC Arcane Mage levels of broken. Pulling aggro would become a legitimate concern, as tanks would need to sustain ~2 million dps for 35 seconds in the most extreme cases.

by all means pull more numbers out of thin air

[Snowfunk]

I doubt they will remove the stack limit on Crusade, just seems insane. But on the other hand, the Blade of Wrath nerf is pretty massive.

[Floross]

What's the ppm on the new BoW? What does that average its cooldown to ?

[Clozer]

aaaand it's gone again. Blizzard-Troll is real.

[Deleted]

So... have we heard nothing about sword of light removal yet? It can't be intended if its not in the patch notes.

[Snegovik]

So... have we heard nothing about sword of light removal yet? It can't be intended if its not in the patch notes.

until 7.1 is live and we can actually test it, i honestly think it is a tooltip removal from our spell book.

[Krothare]

Instead of the Crusade change which common sense dictates isn't going through, can we talk about the trinket buffs? Is that gonna change any priorities for Ret?

[Ryuji]

Wonder if the prolonged pot will affect Ret, or other melee specs. I think higher haste makes Old War stronger but...hmmm.

[Deleted]

I would be interested if the trinket buffs change anything too.
According to Berith in the US Forums there was a new PTR build with some changes:
CS and Judgement's damage lowered by 5%. Templars Verdict and Divine Storms damage lowered by 10%. But the bonus from mastery was increased by 10%.
Screenshot with tooltip comparison: https://imgur.com/a/vwUXk

It will be interesting if those changes are going live as well. Some kind of try to increase the value of mastery?

[oraz4000]

I would be interested if the trinket buffs change anything too.
According to Berith in the US Forums there was a new PTR build with some changes:
CS and Judgement's damage lowered by 5%. Templars Verdict and Divine Storms damage lowered by 10%. But the bonus from mastery was increased by 10%.
Screenshot with tooltip comparison: https://imgur.com/a/vwUXk

It will be interesting if those changes are going live as well. Some kind of try to increase the value of mastery?

Thats the 5% from Sword of light missing, its nothing new either been missing for a long time.