1. #4621
    Quote Originally Posted by Dugna View Post
    and these people have been designing classes......jesus.....
    To be fair: he is no dev, he is a community manager.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tiaron View Post
    To be fair: he is no dev, he is a community manager.
    still doesn't help, he's still part of the chain leading to development....its just overall really stupid

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    I think that CM has a problem.... He needs to find better players to play with, cuz if he says that Paladins are no where near the buttom, he's playing with some subpar players or only other paladins.

    Or maybe... He never stepped foot in Tomb, coupd be a possibility


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    It's quite possible he specced retard instead of retribution.

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    Especially if you take into consideration the fact that op's question was regarding pvp, yet he answered with dragonslaying bs.
    Be wary of the ones who yell: "Off with the satire!", for trash is always displeased with the broom.
    Please refrain from speaking your mind or having an opinion.

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    To repeat a few others: He is only a community manager, not a dev. Regardless of the fact it goes to show he has 0 clue on whats exactly going on in his posts and probably is not in mythic or if so is only first couple of bosses.

  6. #4626
    Hey fellow rets.
    I'm currently levelling a ret pala and i've got a question regarding lvl30 talents; it's between Zeal and The Fires of Justice. I've read Zeal is the way to go single target, but when playing with it I have a lot of stale moments in my rotation (where everything is on CD), it feels a lot more fluent with TFoJ. Does this change when I'm 110 with decent haste levels? What are you playing with, and why?
    Thanks for reading, would appreciate any input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipologic View Post
    Hey fellow rets.
    I'm currently levelling a ret pala and i've got a question regarding lvl30 talents; it's between Zeal and The Fires of Justice. I've read Zeal is the way to go single target, but when playing with it I have a lot of stale moments in my rotation (where everything is on CD), it feels a lot more fluent with TFoJ. Does this change when I'm 110 with decent haste levels? What are you playing with, and why?
    Thanks for reading, would appreciate any input.
    what tier you're wearing and your haste lvls do affect which is better, Zeal is better atm because of those variables, but overall just sim once you reach 110. I ran TFoJ the whole time lvling because extra HP always feels better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dipologic View Post
    Hey fellow rets.
    I'm currently levelling a ret pala and i've got a question regarding lvl30 talents; it's between Zeal and The Fires of Justice. I've read Zeal is the way to go single target, but when playing with it I have a lot of stale moments in my rotation (where everything is on CD), it feels a lot more fluent with TFoJ. Does this change when I'm 110 with decent haste levels? What are you playing with, and why?
    Thanks for reading, would appreciate any input.
    Zeal is mainly better for single target if you're using 4set T20. Otherwise it's not likely to be better.

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    Since the thread regarding balanced balance of ret in tomb was so wisely locked, I have to admit that ret indeed did not lose much in utility department as some crybaby whiners might lead you to think.
    Now I see that clearly.
    Please refrain from speaking your mind or voicing an opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Storm the Sorrow View Post
    Since the thread regarding balanced balance of ret in tomb was so wisely locked, I have to admit that ret indeed did not lose much in utility department as some crybaby whiners might lead you to think.
    Now I see that clearly.
    Please refrain from speaking your mind or voicing an opinion.
    In the process of gutting Retribution, it lost a lot of its identity as THE versatile spec. Talents were mainly based around utility and movement, and I include off-healing as utility because it was much more significant before the pruning. It actually made a difference, and you could see that. Selfless Healer was *the* ability for saving people as Ret, and they just deleted it. Word of Glory did not have charges, so it didn't feel limiting to use.

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    Seals aswell.
    Seal damage didn't matter, and it being baked into our damage matters not.
    What mattered was utility we had through them: sustain, raid support, and emps talent as a pinnacle of utility and personal enhancement.
    Auras go that way too. They didn't do much, but they were there, they were part of paladin archetype.
    For feth 's sake protection has retribution aura now.
    Current wog is beyond shit.
    Hof alone doesn't cut it as far as personal mobility goes.
    Etc etc.
    Be wary of the ones who yell: "Off with the satire!", for trash is always displeased with the broom.
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