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    Russian Warplanes Reportedly Bombed US Base in Syria


    Fox News | Jul 22, 2016



    A Russian air force Sukhoi SU-30Sm in flight.The war against ISIL is giving Russia an opportunity to test its weapons and military doctrine.
    Russian warplanes reportedly bombed a secret military base in Syria used by elite American and British forces last month.

    The Wall Street Journal reported Thursday that the Russian strike on the CIA-linked site was part of a campaign by Russia to pressure the White House to agree to closer cooperation in the Syrian skies, U.S. military and intelligence officials said.Despite the fact that some forces could have been killed and the bombing dampened relations between Russia and the Pentagon and CIA, the White House and State Department still pursued a compromise.

    The U.S. and Russia agreed to a pact last week to target airstrikes against the al-Qaida affiliate in the region -- Nusra Front -- despite objections from the Pentagon and CIA. Russia agreed to stop airstrikes on U.S.-backed rebels and restrain the Syrian air campaign. The two sides are still talking about designations where Russia would need U.S. approval to conduct an airstrike.

    According to The Wall Street Journal, deal backers in the White House and State Department believe U.S. airstrikes on the Nusra Front in areas that were previously occupied by Russian forces would provide protection for allies in Syria.

    However, officials in the Pentagon and CIA contend that Washington bowed to Moscow in the deal and believe that the U.S. needs to confront Russia.
    The Russian strike on the base occurred on June 16. The U.S. and British forces help maintain what is described as a buffer zone in Jordan. Forces go into Syria to help protect Jordan from the Islamic State, U.S. officials told The Journal. Forces didn't spend the night, due to security reasons.Nearly a day before the strike, 20 of 24 British special forces pulled out of the base. The U.S. tracked a Russian plane heading toward the base. The warplane dropped a cluster bomb, according to U.S. and rebel officials.

    After the first strike, U.S. central command air operations center in Qatar called Russia's air campaign headquarters in Latakia, Syria to tell them that the base shouldn't be attacked.

    However, Russian forces struck again nearly 90 minutes after the call was made. Russian pilots didn't respond to U.S. calls using frequencies the two sides had previously agreed to use in case of an emergency.At least four rebels were killed in strikes.

    Russian officials initially told the Pentagon that the military thought it was an Islamic State facility, but U.S. officials rejected the notion because of what they described as a unique way the base was fortified, The Journal reported.Russians then said that the Jordanians had given them the go-ahead to strike the base, but the U.S. double-checked and said no such authorization was given. Later, Russia told the U.S. that their headquarters wasn't in position to call off the strike because the U.S. didn't provide them with the proper coordinates of the base.

    U.S. officials said that the Pentagon had never asked the Russians to steer clear of that area because it wasn't close to the front lines and Russian aircraft didn't operate in that part of Syria anyway.

    The strike has increased the distrust between U.S. and American forces in Syria. According to The Wall Street Journal, the U.S. didn't want to give Russia any more information than it had to.
    Since the strike, the U.S. has told Russia to steer clear of the Jordanian border.
    Did they eat the bombs or Fox sci-fi story again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
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    Did they eat the bombs or Fox sci-fi story again?
    Fox sci-fi. If it were any true then we would have a shitstorm out of this world.

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    nah can't be right. That would be a catastrophe.

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    If it was a secret military base how were the Russians to know it was a military base used by the US and UK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attackrabbit View Post
    If it was a secret military base how were the Russians to know it was a military base used by the US and UK?
    Its calles satellites. Also, Syria is Russian ally, i am pretty sure they know everything.

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    Why are people so skeptical of the idea that the US and Russia are playing footsie with deniable assets? Seems completely believable to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ji-tae View Post
    nah can't be right. That would be a catastrophe.
    USA had sent F-18 to intercept those Russian bombers but once they left to refuel, Russian's returned and bombed again the fuck out of that base. These news are not from fox. We also knew that USA was "training" (terrorists) allies there so we knew it was CIA sponsored.

    What we didn't know is that was remarked official as a USA / UK base.

    There are other sources on these news like: http://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-...u-s-1469137231


    The best part is that after bombing into the oblivion the base, USA agreed on cooperating with the Russians on Syria hahaha.

    (I'd love to see Skroe's face right about now <3)

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    Yep, believabru.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post
    Its calles satellites. Also, Syria is Russian ally, i am pretty sure they know everything.
    syria has a gov , you are the invaders . i hope the story is true and you stop helping partisans and isis
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    Russia wouldn't waste bombs hitting a "secret" US base unless CIA was still backing terror linked cells in Syria.

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    Shit happens. During the Gulf War roughly a quarter of US losses in battle was due to friendly fire. Hopefully both sides get it in their heads, that - let's be honest, apart from some equipment testing under real life conditions - shooting at each other doesn't accomplish anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMediator View Post
    Why are people so skeptical of the idea that the US and Russia are playing footsie with deniable assets? Seems completely believable to me.
    Skepticism is warranted when the sole source is FOX News.
    Which is the network with the highest percentage of lies sold as news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    Skepticism is warranted when the sole source is FOX News.
    Which is the network with the highest percentage of lies sold as news.
    The bombing has appeared a month ago to all major sites This is a fact confirmed by both USA and Russia.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ver-syria.html
    https://theaviationist.com/2016/06/2...rs-over-syria/

    and no today's news appeared first in WsJ:
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/russian-...u-s-1469137231

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    Can't find a straight story, seems like it was a US/British outpost that was bombed after the soldiers left.

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    CIA linked?

    Now we know where these "moderate rebels" are getting their weapons from.

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    The story frist came up when USA F-18s from one of their carriers clashed with Russian SU-34s after the later bombed US controlled base. When the F-18's left, the SU-34 returned and bombed some more.

    These are old news.

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    To take the metaphor of some people, I would dare say that there is an urgent need in Russia for a good old agitprop campaign to offuscate the upcoming Rio ban.

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    Eventhough i think it is highly unlikely i don't put it past Putin to do a stunt like this...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwistedSkull View Post
    Eventhough i think it is highly unlikely i don't put it past Putin to do a stunt like this...
    What exactly is his stun? Bombing terrorists is now a stunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Attackrabbit View Post
    If it was a secret military base how were the Russians to know it was a military base used by the US and UK?
    They knew because we told them after seeing their planes approaching it. They still bombed it claiming it was to intimidate us into cooperating with them. We then called them again and told them it was a US base, and attempted to radio the pilots which they ignored and then bombed it again 90 minutes later.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wall Street Journal
    After that first Russian strike, officers with the U.S. military’s Central Command air operations center in Qatar called their counterparts in Russia’s air campaign headquarters in Latakia, Syria, U.S. officials said. The American officers told the Russians that the garrison was part of the U.S. campaign against Islamic State and shouldn’t be attacked.

    Roughly 90 minutes after the U.S. warning was delivered, U.S. aircraft circling nearby watched as the Russians launched a second wave of strikes against the garrison.

    A U.S. military surveillance aircraft overhead tried to hail the Russian pilots directly using the frequencies which the U.S. and Russian governments had agreed to use in emergencies.
    The Russian pilots didn’t respond.Then our limp wristed Pansy in Chief Obama does absolutely nothing about it other than call Putin and ask what he can do to cooperate. This is an asinine and unacceptable response from our President! I would even call it treasonous to not respond to a military bombing from another nation against us. Why is the Kremlin not a pile of ash right now????

    Quote Originally Posted by Wall Street Journal
    A provisional agreement reached by Secretary of State John Kerry in Moscow last week—over Pentagon and CIA objections—calls for the former Cold War adversaries to join forces in strikes against the Nusra Front, Syria’s al Qaeda affiliate. In exchange for the U.S. easing Moscow’s international isolation, Russia would halt airstrikes on the U.S.-backed rebels and restrain the Syrian air force.

    Bullshit like this is why we need a real President like Donald Trump. HE wouldve been on the phone and had our jets shoot theirs down and destroy the Kremlin within minutes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevoicefromwithin View Post
    Shit happens. During the Gulf War roughly a quarter of US losses in battle was due to friendly fire. Hopefully both sides get it in their heads, that - let's be honest, apart from some equipment testing under real life conditions - shooting at each other doesn't accomplish anything.
    It wasnt friendly fire. The were told several times that it was a US base, and at least 90 minutes before the second bombing

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