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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by StationaryHawk View Post
    The Burning Legion does invade all across Azeroth, as depicted by the various class quests and the pre-Legion events. However, World of Warcraft is a video game that requires time and resources to develop and obviously Blizzard decided that doing another re-haul of Azeroth for the sake of immersion wasn't worth it.
    This is definitely it. Blizzard is constantly choosing between the lore and the mechanics of the game, and we're all in a tiny minority by being invested in the lore. If they were to represent in-game what's happening in-lore, we'd have nothing but demons to fight for the next two years or so across the entire game. That sounds horrible.

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Xenryusho View Post
    -snip-

    Good post. I want to add that the threat of the iron horde was well above what was shown in game. The same reason that everyone seemed to be terribly confused why the dreanei would make peace with Grommash rather than provoke a guaranteed genocide. The iron horde was, at the end of WoD, hundreds of thousands strong. The Dreanei were on their last legs, absolutely. We didn't see those numbers in game for gameplay reasons, but it wasn't just the few hundred of mobs that spawn in tanaan that made up their armies.
    also alot of people forget grommash dident want to do any of that, but garrosh tricked him, made us think we worked with guldan and the legion, and we were the bag guys, showing our warlocks, the visions of everyone attacking orgrimmar, the internment camps, but dident show why they happened....

    grommash when he realized we were the good guys joined us, as he allways wanted the best for draenor, but garrosh had made us look like the bad guys, and that the draeni were also the bad guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seifross View Post
    This is definitely it. Blizzard is constantly choosing between the lore and the mechanics of the game, and we're all in a tiny minority by being invested in the lore. If they were to represent in-game what's happening in-lore, we'd have nothing but demons to fight for the next two years or so across the entire game. That sounds horrible.
    also fighting a group of 1-2 demons, is alot more managable then fighting 50 demons at a time... normally these areas with a demon here and there, should be hundreds, as the amount is shortend, by us needing to be able to kill a mob, and walk around, instead of fighting 5 mobs at once, then another patrol getting to you in 3 seconds

  3. #43
    From playing the beta it's not the biggest. It's about on par with the Legion invasion in BC(which Blizzard isn't even counting as a Legion invasion). Hopefully future patches will have the invasion getting worse, but right now most of the broken isle zones are demon-free.

  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by Nelinrah View Post
    From playing the beta it's not the biggest. It's about on par with the Legion invasion in BC(which Blizzard isn't even counting as a Legion invasion). Hopefully future patches will have the invasion getting worse, but right now most of the broken isle zones are demon-free.
    I have to agree with this. It doesn't feel like the biggest, its more like a glimpse of what it could be. The zones are heavily focused on their origins and and cultures. Which of course has relevance to the story.

  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by BAMyouhaveaids View Post
    Yeah I find it rather hard to believe this. Legion going to end EXACTLY like Warlords of draenor, we were told that the Iron horde was the most dangerous threat we've ever faced thus far and they were defeated before 6.1.
    What about the third war? The burning legion didn't even use their armies only their minions, and even then they managed to kill cenarius very easily, they destroyed the entirety of Lordaeron, they burnt Quel'thalas to ashes and they nearly destroyed The night elves and Orcs.

    So with the biggest legion invasion ever, why are there only going to be demons on the Broken Isles?
    1. We weren't there in the 3rd war, it was Jaina/Uther/Arthas/Thrall/Hamuul/Malfurion/Tyrande/Illidan - now we are here and we're much tougher than before, we've faced the legion again in Outland, faced Arthas and the Lich King, Deathwing and a cataclysm, 3 old gods, we're not to be trifled with.
    And the demons are all over Azeroth as the pre-event is going to show - part of this expansion is that we are going to stop this massive invasion dead in its tracks before they wash all over us.. Remember this is all happening within a few weeks of the portal opening.
    Quote Originally Posted by BAMyouhaveaids View Post
    Why aren't there mass legions (Pun not intended) of demons everywhere on maybe say, Northrend or in Eastern kingdoms Kalimdor and Pandaria? Yeah they are going to attack in the prelaunch event, but so did the iron horde, how did that turn out? Neither did it make sense then, they had basically millions of orcs on the other side and they were just waiting for nothing, sending only 3 orcs at a time.
    video games for you, totally unrealsitic, saying that, you will see them all over, including Pandaria, but through the Monk class quest.
    Quote Originally Posted by BAMyouhaveaids View Post
    The only real villain we've ever had that actually acomplished something in WoW was Deathwing as he rekt the planet upon arrival and there were twilight cultists everywhere seeking to destroy the entire planet, now THAT felt like a threat! And this wasn't even the Old gods at their peak, there were no old gods at all to save them or C'thraxxi or anything. You might say that the Lich king felt like a threat aswell, but let's not kid ourselves, his armies lost at every turn, even if he killed us on the citadel, he still lost there so he didn't really acomplish anything. The so called Legion invasion is confined to a small isle and being defeated by some adventurers?

    TL;DR: Biggest legion invasion ever? More like biggest pushover of an attempt at an invasion ever. The legion is not going to do any better than the Iron horde when it comes to winning. They are going to lose at every turn and be defeated before 7.1. The 3rd war felt like more of a threat than this, as did Cataclysm, because they actually caused damage, "The biggest invasion ever" is going to be confined to a small pathetic Isle.
    Actually, if you've been following the reports from beta - the legion do a lot of damage. They crush the alliance and horde armies sent against them - yeah, we lose Tirion - dunno what's happneing to the Argent Dawn now - i think it's silly that they sacrificed the Argent Dawn, but maybe they did that to rebirth the Silver Hand. Taht's gone, Varian's gone, Vol'jin's gone, we and a handful surivived the broken shore attack.

    As for the night elves, i hear they are crushed big time, both the Kalimdor lot and the Broken Isle lot. Kalimdor night elves couldn't even send an army cos they were that pressed all over due to previous struggles, the Broken Isles groups, druids, the wardens, the moonguard the highborne the nightborne all get crushed by this invasion or hampered by betrayals etc. So yeah, the night elves who usually save the day are gone, no alliance or horde to save the day either.

    This legion attack is certainly the worse ever as the 3 main groups who united to defeat them are really crushed. Malfurion, who delivered Azeroth twice is trapped in the nightmare facing an entirely different but equally as important struggle, so no help from him. Thrall is having a crises of conscience, it's up to us now as the last hope.

    Shame not many people are getting this, but the reason might be because you haven't played the expansion yet or followed it closely enough to catch all those bits.
    Last edited by Beloren; 2016-07-25 at 10:45 AM.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by BAMyouhaveaids View Post
    So with the biggest legion invasion ever, why are there only going to be demons on the Broken Isles? Why aren't there mass legions (Pun not intended) of demons everywhere on maybe say, Northrend or in Eastern kingdoms Kalimdor and Pandaria? Yeah they are going to attack in the prelaunch event, but so did the iron horde, how did that turn out? Neither did it make sense then, they had basically millions of orcs on the other side and they were just waiting for nothing, sending only 3 orcs at a time.
    Because you didn't seem to have played the beta or watched any videos.

    The Legion attacks Nordrassil, Westfall, Dun Morogh, Hillsbrad, Stormwind, Orgrimmar, Mulgore, the monk place in Kun-lai, the Hinterlands, Tol'barad, the Wetlands, Scholomance, the Vale of Eternal Blossoms, Ulduar, Exodar...
    The list goes on and on.
    Many of these places, such as the monk place, are taken and/or destroyed.
    Last edited by Leodok; 2016-07-25 at 02:44 PM.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by BAMyouhaveaids View Post
    Yeah I find it rather hard to believe this. Legion going to end EXACTLY like Warlords of draenor, we were told that the Iron horde was the most dangerous threat we've ever faced thus far and they were defeated before 6.1.
    What about the third war? The burning legion didn't even use their armies only their minions, and even then they managed to kill cenarius very easily, they destroyed the entirety of Lordaeron, they burnt Quel'thalas to ashes and they nearly destroyed The night elves and Orcs.

    The only real villain we've ever had that actually acomplished something in WoW was Deathwing as he rekt the planet upon arrival and there were twilight cultists everywhere seeking to destroy the entire planet, now THAT felt like a threat! And this wasn't even the Old gods at their peak, there were no old gods at all to save them or C'thraxxi or anything. You might say that the Lich king felt like a threat aswell, but let's not kid ourselves, his armies lost at every turn, even if he killed us on the citadel, he still lost there so he didn't really acomplish anything. The so called Legion invasion is confined to a small isle and being defeated by some adventurers?
    Welcome to the Perils of storytelling in an MMO. You can't actually change 95% of the world to reflect the story.

    Deathwing and Cata felt impactful only because they DID make an effort to change the world to reflect the story, but that was a MASSIVE undertaking and unfortunately too much work to do for every expansion.

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