Why does no one read the Quran before defending it?

[Deleted]

For the same reason why people attack it without ever reading it

[Deleted]

All done because of the inherit good moral values christianity has. It's not hard to see why you would want to push and even force christianity on people you colonized that had deviant religious practices like rape, child molestation, sexual organs altering or even human sacrifice. All that's prohibided by christianity and they easiest part of it that was popular back then and now as well "The 10 commandments".

Those are still practices on heavily christian african nations nowadays.

Western christianity is how it is because it was built upon Roman culture identity. But in many other nations it took different routes (like Prester John's kingdom of Ethiopia).

[Forogil]

Judaism is not proselytizing, but that is not what you said.

I should have been clearer - Judaism allows people to join - but neither encourages it, nor makes it easy. The door isn't locked for new converts, but certainly the door is more open in Christianity.

But is there a reason you repeat this?

[Deleted]

Africa is warlord teritory. If you are a millionare you can apply for one and rule a zone in Africa. Yet none of them are supported by the curent official churches. This isn't the Middle Ages with the crusades and Pope giving orders and going to war.

The same way there are no Caliphates supporting jihads.

[Mihalik]

All done because of the inherit good moral values christianity has. It's not hard to see why you would want to push and even force christianity on people you colonized that had deviant religious practices like rape, child molestation, sexual organs altering or even human sacrifice. All that's prohibided by christianity and they easiest part of it that was popular back then and now as well "The 10 commandments".

*facepalm*

Whoa. So.much.moral.relativism.and.bullshit.

I don't even know how to cure this stupid.

What the fuck are you talking about? I literally can't even.

Have you paid attention in school at any point? Or Romania just skips over the whole Colonialism and Crusades thing?

I don't have either the time or the patience to start explaining 2000 years of history to you.

Almost everything we consider moral today is a product of the Enlightenment and Classical Philosophy. Reverting to the 10 Commandments is reverting the world to the Middle Ages.

[Forogil]

I didn't said that The Wealth of Nations has inherent violence in the book, neither Das Kapital has. But both were fundamentally followed in several cases, which led to violence and hatred.

Das Kapital discussing the struggle between the classes naturally suggests violence; and was written together with 'The Communist Manifesto' that more clearly encourages it.
But what were the examples of fundamentally following 'The Wealth of Nations' leading to violence?

[Alvito]

I imagine for the same reason people attack it without reading it.

[Kalador]

You don't have to read it to defend the fact that no book should be proscribe and that freedom of religions is a constitutionally protected right in both canada and U.S.A...

Also i don't want to read crappy books like the Bible or Quran, i tried with the bible and stop after 20 pages. It was more boring than the felowship of the ring... and it probably doesn't get better after 500 pages. Yes religion as deeply influence us and our society but today it's more of giant anchor slowing any advancement so if we could drop it i would be more than happy. I don't need to read a book to know it's full a crap. my time is better invested reading somthing else...

[Bryntrollian]

At some points it is just as violent as the Bible and at others it's a little less.

[Shadowferal]

people don't create laws and get their moral values from the bible =P unlike the Quran

Beg to differ.

There's a damn good reason why the Founders of the US referred to God and Creator in the Christian sense whenever they spoke to people.

[Deleted]

Did ANYONE listen to all the Trump speeches to realize they are false? That is your answer.

[zoomgpally]

Wait, who is defending the Qu'ran?

It's a book.
A book with contradicting things in it.
A book with violent parts.
A book that most "followers" don't fully follow (which would be impossible, with contradicting things).

Did you just describe the bible?

[Enthusiastic Steward]

people don't create laws and get their moral values from the bible =P unlike the Quran

People arguing against the legalization of gay marriage say hello.

[Deleted]

people don't create laws and get their moral values from the bible =P unlike the Quran

Actually, there are 613 "hints" how to live. No more, no less.

[Phlegethon]

I don't see why someone should read it before they defend it

This is stupid.

[Mormolyce]

Have you ever read the Bible?

[Machismo]

Dunno who they are, but it's against christian teachings. Same can be said for every religion or even no religion. Invalid argument, try again.

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Africa is warlord teritory. If you are a millionare you can apply for one and rule a zone in Africa. Yet none of them are supported by the curent official churches. This isn't the Middle Ages with the crusades and Pope giving orders and going to war.

The Bible has justified a great many terrible things, including those I mentioned. Some Christian groups also condone, participate, or cover up such activity. The Bible is every bit as bloody and gruesome as the Qur'an.

[Renyo]

make it a movie , reading is boring

There is a movie about Mohammed and the origins of Islam. But it does not say much about the contents of the Quran iirc. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074896/ They also do not show Mohammed in this movie but tell his story through the persons and events which accompanied him.

[Sky High]

10 pages? jeez, impressed it's been open this long.

[Machismo]

Beg to differ.

There's a damn good reason why the Founders of the US referred to God and Creator in the Christian sense whenever they spoke to people.

Our founders were a bunch of oppressive jerks who wanted to force their beliefs onto others. They wanted to take away freedoms from women and minorities. Thomas Jefferson was a serial rapist. As a nation, we have achieved far more freedom in spite of Christianity, than because of it.