Reasons to Vote for Trump!

[BannedForViews]

Dracos already answered the point of debt. Now lets addres the rest of the arguments:

1) He lacks the knowledge to realize that a reduction in taxes would not generate sufficient gains(economic growth) to cover the amount of lost. This is literally basic understanding of the laffer curve. And it would only leave a defficit.

2) I'm a liberal not a socialist or part of the left. Liberal policies absolutely do not clash with the idea of free trade, in fact they support it. But that is besides the point because he is wrong with every respectable economist out there.

lets start with your premise. "a reduction in taxes would not generate sufficient gains(economic growth) to cover the amount of lost". Why do you assume the default position is always one in which current spending levels must be retained? Where is that written? I'm not defending Trump. That's not my job and it's not something I care to do. This point exists outside of Trump. ALL liberals believe that whatever the government spends today is the minimum that the government must spend tomorrow. There is never a retraction, so no, I reject your claim that he lacks the knowledge. As to the Laffer curve, you clearly don't understand it. It doesn't come anywhere close to approximating the point Laffer was trying to make. Also you do not know it would leave a deficit, because firstly, taxes are not linear, and secondly you cannot account for all the other issues that would affect whether there is a deficit, or how large it is. And your phrasing is HILARIOUS. "It would only leave a deficit" like we haven't had one of those every year since Coolidge, and like Obama hasn't added more to the national debt in his 2 terms then every president before him combined. But nice try.

Trump is very wrong about free trade though and his protectionism, but liberals are just as guilty as pandering to that contingent. And lets be clear...

Trump is NOT a republican. He is a old school democrat.

[Blur4stuff]

in other words, zero specifics about anything. just "make america great again".

[BannedForViews]

Yeah, I made up my mind about Trump 20 years ago... You know, before Apprentice made him seem like a competent businessman, but while he was generally considered the property of tabloid. Paris Hilton alpha...



I can provide more than one... The dude had 4 bankruptcys... The one I chose was specific to the context. My goal wasn't volume, but precision. Notice how you have not refuted the thing I said, outside of your self evaluated proof of me being wrong. If that's not due to your fixation, then your general state of being is ill conceived.


I made a far higher percentage on what I started with, than Trump did. I've never filed for bankruptcy. I've never been on any government assistance. Just because I wasn't born a Trump, doesn't mean I am a lesser person. Neither are you...



The majority of his wealth is his self evaluation of his name. Something he litteraly inherited from his father. Compare the Dow in 1999 and now... Then tell me Trump was smart with his money...

He is a massive joke. Hillary is also a massive joke.

I don't care how many times he has filed for bankruptcy. As long as he stayed afloat and paid his debts back. Bankruptcy court is designed to allow businesses that are currently unable to pay their creditors but will be able to to continue to exist. It is beneficial to both parties and works as intended. But I guess go ahead and hate him for it, I'd rather just pick other reasons myself.

I'm sure you did make a larger proportion than what you started with than he did. Pretty sure most everyone did. anything divided by zero is infinity and all....There are still very few people that ever have billions, no matter how much they started with. He did very well for himself even with his large monetary head start. There is no reason for the exaggeration. And trust me, I do not think he is a greater person than anyone, except Hillary, and I have no concerns about my own self worth. I appreciate your concern though.

His wealth is not his name though, it is his assets. He owns a lot of extremely valuable property. This is just factual. If he wanted to liquidate it he probably wouldn't get 100 cents on the dollar, but he'd still have billions in cash, if he so wanted to, based on the actual value of what he owns, not a perception based on his name. Central Park property is not valuable because it says "Trump" on it.

None of this by the way makes him qualified in the slightest, I just don't think we need to make up reason to dislike him when their are already so many obvious ones.

[Xzan]

I'll just leave this here )

>Trump will never run
>Trump will never release his financials
>Trump will never breach 15%
>Trump will never win New Hampshire
>Trump will never breach 25%
>Trump will never win South Carolina
>Trump will never breach 35%
>Trump will never breach 50%
>Trump will never reach 1237
>Trump will never recover after Wisconsin
>Trump will never win unbound delegates
>Trump will never recover after Colorado
>Donald, hand over the delegates...
>Trump will never be the nominee
>Trump is predicting the wrong outcome for BREXIT
>Trump will never pivot to the general election
>Trump will never unify the majority of GOP
>Trump will never poll better than Clinton in a swing state
[YOU ARE HERE]
>Trump will never be President
>Trump will never build the wall
>Trump will never block risky or illegal aliens
>Trump will never deport illegal aliens
>Trump will never bring back manufacturing jobs
>Trump will never rescind Common Core
>Trump will never renegotiate our trade deals
>Trump will never win a second term
>Trump will never abolish Obamacare
>Trump will never make America great again

[muto]

And the most important reason of all. To keep crooked Hillary out of the White House.

[Garnier Fructis]

>Trump will never build the wall

This one is true unless your idea of a wall is a fence.

[Dadwen]

This one is true unless your idea of a wall is a fence.

Granted not saying it is the case in this matter but this reminded me of reading a old WWII comic yeaaars ago may have been sgt Rock or Haunted Tank and all through the comic this solder was thinking of getting over the (I think) Atlantic Wall all though it he kept going over bunker walls thinking it was the wall, cliffs thinking it was the walls and when he finally stopped to ask some one, and it was explained to him and he realized it went though it miles ago.

[Bollocks]

lets start with your premise. "a reduction in taxes would not generate sufficient gains(economic growth) to cover the amount of lost". Why do you assume the default position is always one in which current spending levels must be retained? Where is that written? I'm not defending Trump. That's not my job and it's not something I care to do. This point exists outside of Trump. ALL liberals believe that whatever the government spends today is the minimum that the government must spend tomorrow. There is never a retraction, so no, I reject your claim that he lacks the knowledge. As to the Laffer curve, you clearly don't understand it. It doesn't come anywhere close to approximating the point Laffer was trying to make. Also you do not know it would leave a deficit, because firstly, taxes are not linear, and secondly you cannot account for all the other issues that would affect whether there is a deficit, or how large it is. And your phrasing is HILARIOUS. "It would only leave a deficit" like we haven't had one of those every year since Coolidge, and like Obama hasn't added more to the national debt in his 2 terms then every president before him combined. But nice try.

Trump is very wrong about free trade though and his protectionism, but liberals are just as guilty as pandering to that contingent. And lets be clear...

Trump is NOT a republican. He is a old school democrat.

http://www.igmchicago.org/igm-econom...irlrss5UC27YXi
Here is an igm poll showing almost unanimous agreement that a reductuons in taxes would not increase tax gains. (Laffer Curve bro)
And here is a study showing how trump's tax plan would develop:
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/publi...rumps-tax-plan
This accounts for a dynamic model, giving trump the benefit of the doubt because dynamic models are known to be inaccurate, but without it deficit would be higher.

And you can blame bush for the deficit as he reduced tax revenue, increased government spending by a factor of two and left obama with the biggest crisis in 70 years, when he in fact received the government with a surplus. And trump would just make it worse as he has ambitious projects to carry out, so you know more spending.
It's odd you say this because bill Clinton is accused and blamed for nafta and hillary is being accused of not making clear wheather or not she is in favour of the TPP.

[Xzan]

This one is true unless your idea of a wall is a fence.

Hehe a wall means wall. Fence is already there. But we'll see.

[Ghostpanther]

I read his tax plan. I fail to see how it is idiotic. Also he would be president, not dictator. Obama said about 100 things he was going to do and the only one he did, healthcare, is an abject failure. I wouldn't put too much stock into his anti-trade rhetoric. I'm not saying you're a liberal but i find it funny that any liberal would use that as an argument against him though. They can't stand free trade.

On the debt issue though, that is the eventual solution. The amount of liabilities are too large. Debtors will either be stiffed through fractional repayments or inflation will solve the problem. As it stands the US, and pretty much every other national, uses inflation to solve this problem. I fail to see how you are okay with the one but not with the other.

For myself as one example, it would give me around 1500 bucks more to spend per year. Which will help the economy by me spending it on stuff and thus create a demand for more jobs. Now multiply that by over tens of millions per year. And there would be some who it would save even more. Thus they would have even more money to spend on stuff.

But the steps to reduce the national debt, tax decreases are only a small part to energize the economy. Many other steps would have to take place. But tax reductions is one of the important ones.

The economy is the number one thing on the mind of the American voters according to every poll of election concerns I have seen. Because in spite of the rosy picture the present administration likes to paint, it sucks right now in the minds of most people. And they are the ones who will vote.

[Deleted]

I am not from the USA but from what I see here in there news, seems like everything is valid to make Hillary viable, constant lies and the media cooking it slow for her. I don't like Trump but I'd definitely like vote for him before Hillary.

[Espe]

I don't like Trump but I'd definitely like vote for him before Hillary.

Well then, it's a good thing you aren't from the US.