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    Love the "He asked Russia to hack us again!" spin of what he said. Context is important. The server containing said emails doesn't even exist any more. Kind of hard to hack something that doesn't exist.

    Also, the fact that people are claiming that Russia is trying to get Trump elected, when we don't even know for a fact that it was the Russian government that hacked the DNC, is fucking laughable.

    I can't stand either candidate. Nor can I stand the constant spin and the constant bullshit spewing from obviously biased media outlets. This kind of shit is why Trump is succeeding. Trump would have no shot at all if the Democrats just led a simple, honest campaign but they're fear mongering about Russia right now. This is ludicrous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Why is it important for everyone to see his taxes? Why is always the Republicans that are supposed to do it? Where is Crooked Hillary's tax returns? Where are the Clinton Foundation's returns? Last time everyone wanted 25 years worth of Romney's returns but Obama was never asked.
    Because since Nixon's time they have as a trust exercise and Trump called upon other politicians to do so yet won't for himself and blames an audit. In fact when Nixon did he was under IRS audit. And Trump refuses to release tax returns not under audit. It's pretty clear he wants to prevent folks form seeing something.

    Clinton's tax returns have been posted and available for over a year. Not sure about the foundation. Obama's tax records have also been posted.

    And amusingly one of the people demanding Romney release his tax returns: Donald Trump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said, staring directly into the cameras. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”
    Yes hes asking them to check through all the information they have (if they are actually responsible for the hack) to see if they can find the 33000 emails that Crooked Hillary "lost". He did NOT say, hey Russia, see if you can hack into more computers to find some emails. Hes talking about parsing through what they already have. (Which is nothing) DNC server was likely hacked by some kid on his couch in Romania or something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    Because since Nixon's time they have as a trust exercise and Trump called upon other politicians to do so yet won't for himself and blames an audit. In fact when Nixon did he was under IRS audit. And Trump refuses to release tax returns not under audit. It's pretty clear he wants to prevent folks form seeing something.

    Clinton's tax returns have been posted and available for over a year. Not sure about the foundation. Obama's tax records have also been posted.

    And amusingly one of the people demanding Romney release his tax returns: Donald Trump.
    Ive seen them, but they arent full returns. They dont show all of the itemized deductions, 1099s, and all schedules,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Yes hes asking them to check through all the information they have (if they are actually responsible for the hack) to see if they can find the 33000 emails that Crooked Hillary "lost". He did NOT say, hey Russia, see if you can hack into more computers to find some emails. Hes talking about parsing through what they already have. (Which is nothing) DNC server was likely hacked by some kid on his couch in Romania or something
    Lol. Regardless of your mental gymnastics above, he specifically asked a foreign government to involve itself in our domestic politics. You can defend that if you want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post

    And amusingly one of the people demanding Romney release his tax returns: Donald Trump.
    Just as amusingly Romey is calling for Trump to do it after he fought tooth and nail not to release his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Ive seen them, but they arent full returns. They dont show all of the itemized deductions, 1099s, and all schedules,
    I want to see Crooked Hillary's entire return. The exact packet that gets sent to the IRS (every sheet, schedule, 1099, deduction, interest statement etc...), and I would agree Trump should do the same. But all most people show is the front page that shows amount of income, deduction amount, and refund/amount owed

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    Why do people say Russia hacked these emails when there is a guy who is claiming he did it from Romania? Not really sure where this underlying hatred of Russia comes from the Cold War was over decades ago. If anything you have Russia to thank for ISIS not being in control of Southern Syria and Damascus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    Lol. Regardless of your mental gymnastics above, he specifically asked a foreign government to involve itself in our domestic politics. You can defend that if you want.
    Indeed - https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ca6_story.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Ive seen them, but they arent full returns. They dont show all of the itemized deductions, 1099s, and all schedules,
    Lol you think they get 1099's? And she released what is traditionally released. Not sure what you think showing itemized deductions would show and what schedules do you think she didn't provide? And yet again Trump won't release anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Just as amusingly Romey is calling for Trump to do it after he fought tooth and nail not to release his own

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    I want to see Crooked Hillary's entire return. The exact packet that gets sent to the IRS (every sheet, schedule, 1099, deduction, interest statement etc...), and I would agree Trump should do the same. But all most people show is the front page that shows amount of income, deduction amount, and refund/amount owed
    Regardless of how begrudgingly Romney did it, he did. It does not change the fact that Trump demanded others release their Tax returns and refuses to release his own. Even you can see the hypocrisy in that.

    And if you are calling for Trump to release his tax returns Bravo. If you want everything released I have no real issue with that. But at this point I would be happy that he match what every other candidate has released.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slitheroutfromtherocks View Post
    Why do people say Russia hacked these emails when there is a guy who is claiming he did it from Romania? Not really sure where this underlying hatred of Russia comes from the Cold War was over decades ago. If anything you have Russia to thank for ISIS not being in control of Southern Syria and Damascus.
    Because we have 3 independent cyber security specialist groups who have examined the hack and found tell-tale markings that point to it being a Russian government agency action.

    https://www.wired.com/2016/07/heres-...ssia-dnc-hack/
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Yeah I don't see anywhere in the article her openly calling for a foreign government to involve itself in our domestic politics as Trump did today. And if you think that insinuating Clinton did the same thing changes that you are wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    I want to see Crooked Hillary's entire return. The exact packet that gets sent to the IRS (every sheet, schedule, 1099, deduction, interest statement etc...), and I would agree Trump should do the same. But all most people show is the front page that shows amount of income, deduction amount, and refund/amount owed
    Good news! You were utterly wrong (again). Eight years of her full returns are downloadable right from her web site.
    Yes, that includes all the schedules, itemized deductions, worksheets, everything. Also her speech payments!
    You didn't even look before spouting off.

    Now, let's get to your more important statement:
    I would agree Trump should do the same.
    We'll all be here continuing to demand that Trump reveal to whom he is actually beholden.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    Lol you think they get 1099's? And she released what is traditionally released. Not sure what you think showing itemized deductions would show and what schedules do you think she didn't provide?
    The itemized deduction and income sources are the most important things. We already know what she gets paid as a salaried government employee. We want to see the deductions for the same reason people always want to to see the Republicans. To see what bullshit they are trying to deduct and if it would fly if you or I tried to deduct it and to see their other sources of income to see if there are any conflicts of interest or ethics violations

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrerBear View Post
    Good news! You were utterly wrong (again). Eight years of her full returns are downloadable right from her web site.
    Yes, that includes all the schedules, itemized deductions, worksheets, everything. Also her speech payments!
    You didn't even look before spouting off.

    Now, let's get to your more important statement:


    We'll all be here continuing to demand that Trump reveal to whom he is actually beholden.
    Just looked through her 2014 tax return and didnt see a list if itemized deductions, just general categories like depreciation. I want to see the list like:

    Work clothing 12,000
    Fuel 3500
    Massages 125,000
    dog grooming 125

    Etc...... I know there are bullshit ones in there, most people put questionable things in that list like the stripper that tried to claim breast implants as a deduction . http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julian...b_5292707.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    The itemized deduction and income sources are the most important things. We already know what she gets paid as a salaried government employee. We want to see the deductions for the same reason people always want to to see the Republicans. To see what bullshit they are trying to deduct and if it would fly if you or I tried to deduct it and to see their other sources of income to see if there are any conflicts of interest or ethics violations
    What income sources are missing? And your nonsense about deductions is just that. Like you would be able to determine what a valid deduction is.

    Edit: And I note Brer shows she did post her deductions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Orlong View Post
    Just looked through her 2014 tax return and didnt see a list if itemized deductions
    Damn, you're lazy.
    Her Schedule A Itemized Deductions is page 3 of the PDF.
    It calls out to the included statement, which is on page 33.
    They gave to 2 churches, a high school reunion charity, and the Clinton Foundation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollocks View Post
    Donald Trump is holding and AMA in the_safespace tonight. I have my alcohol ready
    There's not enough alcohol in the world to make me enter that pit of scum.
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    Tacit endorsement of foreign powers to engage in espionage against a political rival, or for espionage they already took place in for the express purpose of subverting a US election to his own benefit.
    You can attempt to spin that all you want, but at best it's wildy inappropriate and at worst borderline seditious.
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    DORAL, Fla. — Donald Trump asked Russia to help "find" the missing emails from Hillary Clinton's private server during a Wednesday press conference here at his Florida resort.

    "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump proposed from a podium at his Doral Resort. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."
    http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/201...emails-n617946

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