Democratic Election 2016 - Hillary Clinton Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Endus]

I'll give you an example. Bernie wants to significantly increase taxes, Trump wants to significantly reduce taxes. If you think the economy is strong as is, you would've been against significant economic policy changes.

This is false. There is no connection whatsoever between the two statements. My thinking the economy is currently strong is not a statement as to whether I think it can be improved upon. Those are two separate points, unrelated. Especially when the improvements I'm encouraging are meant to improve on things like wealth inequality and reducing reliance on social welfare systems, not on directly boosting the strength of the economy; that strength is a resource, not the goal. Though I certainly think they'll end up boosting economic strength down the line, too, as a secondary effect, due to the increase in spending power by the lower and middle classes that results.

Instead, you suggest the economy is strong when the Republican makes an appeal, then switch back over to economic policy needing significant change when it comes to the Democrat primaries. It is hypocritical.

This is bollocks. The economic being strong is an objective fact. It doesn't cease to be strong when the Democrats are speaking about economic policy, nor does it become weak when the Republicans are speaking. That it's currently strong is a fact, not a political opinion.

I have made no such two-faced assertion. You're literally making it up, and deliberately and maliciously misrepresenting my views. I could have granted that you just didn't understand them, but I've explained myself enough times that you couldn't possibly still not get it, so at this point I have to believe this is deliberate.

There is no "hypocrisy". Nobody is making the argument you're claiming. All you're doing is demonstrating a complete lack of comprehension of what those arguments are, whether willful or accidental on your part.

I'm fine with people having a different opinion than I on what's best for a country, policy-wise, but if you're gonna have to lie about my views to malign me, that doesn't speak well of your attack.

[Tradewind]

So what you're saying is that the best way for Hillary Clinton to keep Bill Clinton occupied the next 4 years is to build a Chuck-E-Cheeses annex to the West Wing?

Only if it also has a webcam so I can spend the next 4 years watching Bill play in the ball room.

[unfilteredJW]

Only if it also has a webcam so I can spend the next 4 years watching Bill play in the ball room.

This will end up dirtier than intended.

[Tradewind]

This will end up dirtier than intended.

If Bill wants to go around laying pipe in the intern pool again, also a bonus.

[unfilteredJW]

If Bill wants to go around laying pipe in the intern pool again, also a bonus.

Wild Bill's Ball Room. It markets itself.

[Gray_Matter]

http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/29/news...dys/index.html

"Moody's Analytics estimates that if the Democratic presidential nominee's proposals are enacted, the economy would create 10.4 million jobs during her presidency, or 3.2 million more than expected under current law. "

and

"Moody's published a similar analysis of Donald Trump's plans in June. It concluded that the Republican presidential nominee's policies would result in an economic downturn that would last longer than the Great Recession. About 3.5 million Americans would lose their jobs, unemployment would jump to 7% and home prices would fall. "

[Orbitus]

Perhaps More people watched the DNC because Republicans are more open minded to the opposition party's message and wanted to hear what the Democrats had to say, whereas democrats just say fuck republicans, they are just a bunch of racist scumbags in the pocket of wallstreet. Im not listening to their tripe.

Yeah, that ain't it. The DNC got more ratings because there are more Democrats than Republicans. Especially since Donald Trump has decimated what was left of your party.

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Learn to read. Democrats are the one promoting that, conservative policies are ones based on reality and long term sustainability. It will be fun to watch USA fall again with Hillary at it's head, Obama the race baiter did wornders for the country!

Actually it isn't. The Conservative policies are the ones that caused the 2008 Recession that most of the world felt. They are also the ones that caused the bullshit in the Middle East.

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This is extremely disingenuous. You know full well, that just because there is no admittance of "Yes, i did this.", does not prove innocence. That's like saying because there was no indictment on her emails, she's innocent when everyone knows better. What the book lays out is a very obvious pattern of behavior, and very un-coincidental actions. She signed over 20% of Uranium to Russians, then days after millions were "donated" to the Clinton foundation from Russians. But because Hillary didn't say "Yep i sold it to russians for millions in private money", there's no evidence? Let's be real here.

No, if you don't have any supporting evidence for the claims then the claims can be dismissed without evidence. And that "claim" that they sold 20% of our Uranium to the Russians is also wrong. http://www.factcheck.org/2015/04/no-...-uranium-deal/ This is also why the Clinton Cash book and movie are 100% bullshit. You really need to stop reading right wing news sources, they are often wrong.

[PC2]

This is false. There is no connection whatsoever between the two statements. My thinking the economy is currently strong is not a statement as to whether I think it can be improved upon. Those are two separate points, unrelated. Especially when the improvements I'm encouraging are meant to improve on things like wealth inequality and reducing reliance on social welfare systems, not on directly boosting the strength of the economy; that strength is a resource, not the goal. Though I certainly think they'll end up boosting economic strength down the line, too, as a secondary effect, due to the increase in spending power by the lower and middle classes that results.

This is bollocks. The economic being strong is an objective fact. It doesn't cease to be strong when the Democrats are speaking about economic policy, nor does it become weak when the Republicans are speaking. That it's currently strong is a fact, not a political opinion.

I have made no such two-faced assertion. You're literally making it up, and deliberately and maliciously misrepresenting my views. I could have granted that you just didn't understand them, but I've explained myself enough times that you couldn't possibly still not get it, so at this point I have to believe this is deliberate.

There is no "hypocrisy". Nobody is making the argument you're claiming. All you're doing is demonstrating a complete lack of comprehension of what those arguments are, whether willful or accidental on your part.

I'm fine with people having a different opinion than I on what's best for a country, policy-wise, but if you're gonna have to lie about my views to malign me, that doesn't speak well of your attack.

I understand that you care more about social issues, but you are completely ignorant of the fact that prioritizing social issues hinders the same economic stat that you showed was positive for the US. If it were simply a case that more progressive policy was good for economics, Europe would be easily outgrowing us and their organizations out-competing us. They are not.

[Felya]

So what you're saying is that the best way for Hillary Clinton to keep Bill Clinton occupied the next 4 years is to build a Chuck-E-Cheeses annex to the West Wing?

OMG! I just realized Clinton eating burgers jokes will once again be topical! Hurray!

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I understand that you care more about social issues, but you are completely ignorant of the fact that prioritizing social issues hinders the same economic stat that you showed was positive for the US. If it were simply a case that more progressive policy was good for economics, Europe would be easily outgrowing us and their organizations out-competing us. They are not.

No, they wouldn't. We helped rebuild Europe just 70 years ago. US was not a super power until the New Deal and post WW2 circumstances. US gained all of it's power after a segnificant shift to infrustracture and social issues.

[alexw]

I understand that you care more about social issues, but you are completely ignorant of the fact that prioritizing social issues hinders the same economic stat that you showed was positive for the US. If it were simply a case that more progressive policy was good for economics, Europe would be easily outgrowing us and their organizations out-competing us. They are not.

This is just wrong. The economy does better when inequality is lower not higher. All the major non-partisan economic institutes now say this. I'm sure you know this too, so why are you repeating what you know to be wrong?

Oh and the reason Europe is doing poorly is due to the god-awful austerity polices and the euro currency. Again something you already know so are also lying about.

[Tragedia]

Greatest thing I've seen in a long time lol. He's so happy!

I heard he took some home!

[Deleted]

The US is a quarantine zone.

For crying out loud Nixx, you're a young soul.

Vote for what you believe, not for the lesser of perceived evils.

We can't let those demons win. They will enslave everyone, even you.

Maybe you will see reason. Maybe you won't. I still like you. But I can guarantee you one thing: there won't be an Armenian-type genocide in the U.S.

Defend the innocent. Rise a knight. Eventually you will just fall in love with one of them, then you will understand.

[Endus]

I understand that you care more about social issues

Depends on what you mean. Pretty much everything is a "social issue", at some point. The economy's value is in how it serves society, for instance.

but you are completely ignorant of the fact that prioritizing social issues hinders the same economic stat that you showed was positive for the US.

This is both generally incorrect, and has the non-virtue of being irrelevant, since nothing about that even if it were true (which it really isn't) would in any way make anything I said hypocritical.

I never said "we should favor economic strength over all things", which is the only kind of statement which would have contradicted my other statements.

If it were simply a case that more progressive policy was good for economics, Europe would be easily outgrowing us and their organizations out-competing us. They are not.

GDP per capita is hardly the only relevant factor to consider in a nation. If it were, the USA would barely enter the top 20. Qatar would be the "strongest/best country", if GDP per capita is your primary measure.

[PC2]

Oh and the reason Europe is doing poorly is due to the god-awful austerity polices and the euro currency. Again something you already know so are also lying about.

Okay well when socialist left wing Europe starts showing great economic growth and unmatched corporations that dominate their sector we'll definitely want to emulate their policy.

[Theodarzna]

I apologize for it being a video of the Armenian Genocide denier and his friends, but this is an interesting analyses.

Hillary did say essentially everything I would say and a statement of things I want done.

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For fun, here is some people mocking TYT.

[Naxere]

Clinton campaign hacked

Totally plausible that her email server security was tighter than a gnat's asshole and never was breached either.

[Tradewind]

Clinton campaign hacked

Totally plausible that her email server security was tighter than a gnat's asshole and never was breached either.

Oh noes, hacks0rz!

Hacks happen, even to $100Billion+ dollar companies who are also the 4th largest tech company in the world. Or even the third largest in the world.

This fuckin' collective pants jizzing over hacks is hilarious. It happens, a lot. This notion that something is meant to be "hack proof" or whatever is farcical at best and just exposes how little people know about this shit before commenting lol.

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Was it Lizard Squad? The 4Chan?

[Tradewind]

Was it Lizard Squad? The 4Chan?

Ah yes, the elusive 4chon guy!

[Deleted]

Ah yes, the elusive 4chon guy!

Makes me giggle everytime.